Monday, August 30, 2010
Big Love: Season 1, Episode 10
I'm sure that Margie thinks she's very mature, or even a great mother. But, in reality, all she does is make everything the "Margene Show" (like Nikki said) and doesn't take care of her kids at all. I would never be able to ignore my kids their diapers (pee on the floor!!!) or their crying like she did. She was being highly irresponsible, and honestly I'm surprised NO ONE has called the cops on her. She isn't even a mother, she's just a babysitter. If she didn't like being called a babysitter, then she shouldn't act like one! Get off your fat ass and take care of those kids!
Sunday, August 29, 2010
Big Love: Season 1, Episode 9
I'm surprised we didn't start out with sex scene again. Seemed to the director's way of saying, "Hey, sex sells...let's put it in every 5minutes of the show! It'll be a hit!". But, we didn't do it this time! Wow! They have taken a step forward into the land of REAL directing/producing. (Nvm...they had a sex scene at 4:35...not even 5minutes in)
Even though Bill and Roman came to an agreement, I am sure that Roman is going to go all pity-party and still cause problems for Bill. He doesn't seem very happy with the "deal", and naturally (as we've seen numerous times in this show) all men are childish babies. So, he's going to continue to cause problems for Bill. I wouldn't be surprised, because apparently the writers know nothing about how real men act. They don't act like childish, spoiled kids. For that matter, they know nothing about real women either. Let's not even get into all of that.
Common theme from his random sex acts is that the girls don't exactly have orgasms. He gets off and then is like, okay shower. So they are left to get themselves off or just go to sleep. That's fairly fucking selfish.
Nikki telling him about the debt after sex, is obviously not the right time. Hell, I don't know if there EVER was a good time to tell him she had 9 credit cards (WTF?) and is $60k in debt. What a moron. She deserves whatever backlash she gets from it, plus I think he guessed that her daddy helped her out and we all know how he feels about Roman. What an irresponsible bitch. Perfect of her to start a scene in public. Way to care about the nosey neighbors! She deserves what's coming to her. Way for Nikki to get Barb into her shit too. Let's drag everyone down with Nikki! Now, since things aren't going the way she wants them to - she starts pretending to be nice and sucking up. Cute. (Margie needs to butt out, she doesn't need to know everything - she wouldn't even understand what the fuck they are even saying anyways) Of course, she wants a free night with him. Wahh...I did somethign wrong...reward me!
Naturally, everything is about Margie and her poor wittle feelings! Poor Margie, there was a vote to let her into the family. WAHHH!! Little does she realize, everyone votes on things like that. It was a major decision, shut the fuck up you little whiner. I can't believe she is asking the KIDS about the vote. Talk about overreacting to something that happened YEARS ago. It doesn't even matter what was said during that time. What a crazy bitch! Poor baby they didn't instantly like her trying to mooch into the family like a gold digger.
I'm hating these chicks the longer I watch this show. The only tolerable one is Barb, and even then I think she is stupid to stay with Bill. I can't stand Nikki at all because of her irresponsibility with EVERYTHING, and Margie needs to grow the fuck up. This shit happened YEARS ago, who the fuck cares if they didn't want another spouse - any spouse, in their marriage? It's none of her business what they decided back in the day. Plus, as shown by her obvious need for attention, she's not helping herself by continuing her relationship with the neighbors. I don't care for her excuses, she has small children and needs to deal with raising her kids - not running off "having fun". GROW UP!
I'm also not surprised that they set her up with a blind date, without telling her. She talks about how hard it is being "single" all the time. She also expressed interest in the single's ward and it's activities. However, I do think they are overstepping in just assuming that she would want a guy in her life. LDS members are NOT anti-soda, btw. I actually drink soda more then anything else. Mountain Dew and Cherry Coke are my favorities. My husband doesn't even really drink milk unless he's eating cake.
I can't believe that Bill is placing the blame on Barb for this. She didn't even keep the secret long, nor is she responsible for what his other grown wives do. Unlike him, she has actually been taking care of everything else. I think it is unrealistic to assume she has responsibility for everything they do. Where is his shit he needs to take care of? Oh that's right, he doesn't do anything but work. He naturally throws everything else onto Barb and then gets cranky when things go haywire. What do you expect? Neither of those two kids have any respect for her, let alone any responsibility for what they do! You've got one running off with the neighbors on blind dates, and another one racking up the bills. Way to pick awesome wives!
Of course, Margene needs to get involved in something that is obviously none of her businesss. She needs to drop this whole vote thing. Obviously, no one wanted to tell her because she's too immature to grasp the concept of it. Even if they all voted for her, she would have had a fit about it. Plus, she let Chad (?) come inside and give her flowers. She obviously just has an attention issue. If something isn't about her, she freaks out and causes even more problems. Margie acts like she was completely voted out, she wasn't obviously. She's still there. What a dumbass.
Nikki is really overreacting and make this another pity party. No one ever kicked her out, and all she did was overreact. She ran to a shelter, stayed there for attention. She's not a discarded woman, and if anything she would only be one because of HERSELF. Way to freak out. Way to ditch your kids, you spoiled bitch! I LOVED how he said he liked being in control - gee you think? Wow! She didn't even stay a shelter, she was lying through her fucking teeth! I knew it!
Real mature driving all the way out there just to throw trash as a small dinky sign. So grown up!
Even though Bill and Roman came to an agreement, I am sure that Roman is going to go all pity-party and still cause problems for Bill. He doesn't seem very happy with the "deal", and naturally (as we've seen numerous times in this show) all men are childish babies. So, he's going to continue to cause problems for Bill. I wouldn't be surprised, because apparently the writers know nothing about how real men act. They don't act like childish, spoiled kids. For that matter, they know nothing about real women either. Let's not even get into all of that.
Common theme from his random sex acts is that the girls don't exactly have orgasms. He gets off and then is like, okay shower. So they are left to get themselves off or just go to sleep. That's fairly fucking selfish.
Nikki telling him about the debt after sex, is obviously not the right time. Hell, I don't know if there EVER was a good time to tell him she had 9 credit cards (WTF?) and is $60k in debt. What a moron. She deserves whatever backlash she gets from it, plus I think he guessed that her daddy helped her out and we all know how he feels about Roman. What an irresponsible bitch. Perfect of her to start a scene in public. Way to care about the nosey neighbors! She deserves what's coming to her. Way for Nikki to get Barb into her shit too. Let's drag everyone down with Nikki! Now, since things aren't going the way she wants them to - she starts pretending to be nice and sucking up. Cute. (Margie needs to butt out, she doesn't need to know everything - she wouldn't even understand what the fuck they are even saying anyways) Of course, she wants a free night with him. Wahh...I did somethign wrong...reward me!
Naturally, everything is about Margie and her poor wittle feelings! Poor Margie, there was a vote to let her into the family. WAHHH!! Little does she realize, everyone votes on things like that. It was a major decision, shut the fuck up you little whiner. I can't believe she is asking the KIDS about the vote. Talk about overreacting to something that happened YEARS ago. It doesn't even matter what was said during that time. What a crazy bitch! Poor baby they didn't instantly like her trying to mooch into the family like a gold digger.
I'm hating these chicks the longer I watch this show. The only tolerable one is Barb, and even then I think she is stupid to stay with Bill. I can't stand Nikki at all because of her irresponsibility with EVERYTHING, and Margie needs to grow the fuck up. This shit happened YEARS ago, who the fuck cares if they didn't want another spouse - any spouse, in their marriage? It's none of her business what they decided back in the day. Plus, as shown by her obvious need for attention, she's not helping herself by continuing her relationship with the neighbors. I don't care for her excuses, she has small children and needs to deal with raising her kids - not running off "having fun". GROW UP!
I'm also not surprised that they set her up with a blind date, without telling her. She talks about how hard it is being "single" all the time. She also expressed interest in the single's ward and it's activities. However, I do think they are overstepping in just assuming that she would want a guy in her life. LDS members are NOT anti-soda, btw. I actually drink soda more then anything else. Mountain Dew and Cherry Coke are my favorities. My husband doesn't even really drink milk unless he's eating cake.
I can't believe that Bill is placing the blame on Barb for this. She didn't even keep the secret long, nor is she responsible for what his other grown wives do. Unlike him, she has actually been taking care of everything else. I think it is unrealistic to assume she has responsibility for everything they do. Where is his shit he needs to take care of? Oh that's right, he doesn't do anything but work. He naturally throws everything else onto Barb and then gets cranky when things go haywire. What do you expect? Neither of those two kids have any respect for her, let alone any responsibility for what they do! You've got one running off with the neighbors on blind dates, and another one racking up the bills. Way to pick awesome wives!
Of course, Margene needs to get involved in something that is obviously none of her businesss. She needs to drop this whole vote thing. Obviously, no one wanted to tell her because she's too immature to grasp the concept of it. Even if they all voted for her, she would have had a fit about it. Plus, she let Chad (?) come inside and give her flowers. She obviously just has an attention issue. If something isn't about her, she freaks out and causes even more problems. Margie acts like she was completely voted out, she wasn't obviously. She's still there. What a dumbass.
Nikki is really overreacting and make this another pity party. No one ever kicked her out, and all she did was overreact. She ran to a shelter, stayed there for attention. She's not a discarded woman, and if anything she would only be one because of HERSELF. Way to freak out. Way to ditch your kids, you spoiled bitch! I LOVED how he said he liked being in control - gee you think? Wow! She didn't even stay a shelter, she was lying through her fucking teeth! I knew it!
Real mature driving all the way out there just to throw trash as a small dinky sign. So grown up!
Saturday, August 28, 2010
WoW and Glyphs
So, we just xferred to a new server. I didn't have my main character (Alchemist), so I decided to delve into the glyph market. I spent 20,000 gold total so far getting into it. I have made back over 30,000 the first two days. Now, I am teetering on not making any money.
Apparently, a bunch of assholes decided that they didn't like glyphs going for 20-60g. These are good prices. I figure, when cata comes out we won't be making near as much money anymore and some people use gems for less time then they do glyphs. Hence, it's a decent market. So these people decided they were going to post glyphs for 2g each, sometimes less. That's not even a profit.
Here's a fact, if you drive down a market - you drive them all down. People won't make as much money, and won't spend as much. It affects them all. Hence, I decided to fix the market. I've been buying out anything I don't like, and reposting for a higher price. This has cost me quite a bit of gold.
However, other people are profitting off of my work. About 4-5 people. The worst part is, they are not helping the situation at all. They just underbid willy nilly. So, I've started buying their shit too. Eventually they will all get the hint and disappear. Good thing I have no life now that I'm high as kite from the wisdom teeth shit.
We'll see how it goes. I just have this theory that if you're not HELPING, then get the fuck out of the market. I'm spending my gold to fix all this shit, and if YOU aren't. Then I don't fucking care if you don't make money. Kthx.
Apparently, a bunch of assholes decided that they didn't like glyphs going for 20-60g. These are good prices. I figure, when cata comes out we won't be making near as much money anymore and some people use gems for less time then they do glyphs. Hence, it's a decent market. So these people decided they were going to post glyphs for 2g each, sometimes less. That's not even a profit.
Here's a fact, if you drive down a market - you drive them all down. People won't make as much money, and won't spend as much. It affects them all. Hence, I decided to fix the market. I've been buying out anything I don't like, and reposting for a higher price. This has cost me quite a bit of gold.
However, other people are profitting off of my work. About 4-5 people. The worst part is, they are not helping the situation at all. They just underbid willy nilly. So, I've started buying their shit too. Eventually they will all get the hint and disappear. Good thing I have no life now that I'm high as kite from the wisdom teeth shit.
We'll see how it goes. I just have this theory that if you're not HELPING, then get the fuck out of the market. I'm spending my gold to fix all this shit, and if YOU aren't. Then I don't fucking care if you don't make money. Kthx.
Friday, August 27, 2010
Big Love: Season 1, Episode 8
It's about time that Bill decided to lay the smack down. Roman needs to just disappear. The law suits won't stop certain issues, but they will get Roman so burried in paperwork that he can't crawl back out of them. What's with Bill's chugging water recently?
What type of person pees in a sink? I am tempted to believe Wanda on this one. She seems like she has no reason to hate either side, and keep a cool head about it all. She doesn't exactly hate anyone, nor does she overly care for any of them. I think those 3 wives are secretly evil bitches. Plus his father is a real piece of work. He can't even pee correctly, who knows what else he's been screwing up.
I don't think Bill will kick her out over the credit card debt. He will be pissed as fuck, but he won't kick her out. Why the fuck does her mother have $90k in debt?! That's not excusable. Apparently, Nikki learned her money habbits from her mother. Not uncommon. I DO think Nikki should get a job to start paying them off. She should be scrimping and trying to pay what she can, when she can. Not just staring at them and begging for money from her family. You made that mess, you fix it.
I'm wondering if Brenda is going to keep stirring up trouble. I'm sure majority of those rumors she started herself. If she causes too many problems, I would fire her anyways. She seems like a gossip, and is really interested in shit that isn't her business. Bill also didn't handle it very well when she asked about Don.
I'm not sure why Bill's dad and mom have so many requirements for things. Like yams with marshmellows. Sounds nasty. I know they lost their houses, but shit, even the 3 wives are acting like they aren't grateful to have a place to go. Margie though, should have lent her car just to get them out of everyone's hair. That dog should just be locked out of the house. It's obviously not trained correctly.
Bill going to the hospital was no big surprise. He's been basically taking horse pills 3x a day just to get it up. He shouldn't even be proud of that. Obviously, it will have a negative effect on his heart and other organs. That should have been a given. Anytime when you take pills like that for extended periods (and not for anything important - like you'll die without them), it WILL cause lasting effects. He's just lucky his heart didn't explode. I didn't like how he blamed his family for this. They aren't to cause, his own male ego was. He shouldn't be lying about something like that, especially when HE got them evicted.
Margie is just whining cause she doesn't like lending her car out. She's being a spoiled brat. She isn't even help take care of them, mostly just complaining about them. She doesn't even LIVE in her own house, let alone have to put up with them. Stop crying little girl! Boo hoo, there's a scratch on her car. You can fix that easily. It's not destroyed, it's perfectly runnable. Chill out little girl, it's not the end of the world.
Barb has every right to feel the way that she does. She basically put her single marriage to the man she loves on hold, because he wants to screw younger chicks. Nikki needs to stop spying. She has enough problems to deal with, mind your fucking business bitch. And then, to be told that his brother isn't a polygamist...is like a slap in the face. I hope she realizes that it's not worth it.
That is a sad story about the daughter Maggie. It just goes to show how fucked up the sect is, and how asshole-ish those "sister" wives are. I don't think anyone is really picking on Fank either. He's a douche and pees in the sink. Fuck him. Then he has the nerve to tell Margie HOW to cut the meat? Get the fuck out.
I am not surprised that Fank is helping out Roman with the whole situation. Obviously Roman only care about what will get him the most. Right now, that happens to be with Roman. Roman is holding all the cards right now, and Fank tattling on Bill is really sad. I hope Bill finds out and finally gets Frank out of his life. Frank's entire family (minus Bill's mom, Joey and Wanda) have just been causing problems from the start. Thank god they can go home and get the fuck out now.
I don't think Bill is handling the situation very well with Roman. So far he started a brawl with some family who didn't have anything to do with, and now he is breaking into a house just to threaten him. That's nice. Just call the cops on him for the polygamy and pedophilia and be done with it. Apparently, Bill isn't so smart. He's not handling this well. Who the hell has 14 wives and thinks that okay?!
Naturally, we had to end the show with old man Bill getting laid. That's good ratings!!!
What type of person pees in a sink? I am tempted to believe Wanda on this one. She seems like she has no reason to hate either side, and keep a cool head about it all. She doesn't exactly hate anyone, nor does she overly care for any of them. I think those 3 wives are secretly evil bitches. Plus his father is a real piece of work. He can't even pee correctly, who knows what else he's been screwing up.
I don't think Bill will kick her out over the credit card debt. He will be pissed as fuck, but he won't kick her out. Why the fuck does her mother have $90k in debt?! That's not excusable. Apparently, Nikki learned her money habbits from her mother. Not uncommon. I DO think Nikki should get a job to start paying them off. She should be scrimping and trying to pay what she can, when she can. Not just staring at them and begging for money from her family. You made that mess, you fix it.
I'm wondering if Brenda is going to keep stirring up trouble. I'm sure majority of those rumors she started herself. If she causes too many problems, I would fire her anyways. She seems like a gossip, and is really interested in shit that isn't her business. Bill also didn't handle it very well when she asked about Don.
I'm not sure why Bill's dad and mom have so many requirements for things. Like yams with marshmellows. Sounds nasty. I know they lost their houses, but shit, even the 3 wives are acting like they aren't grateful to have a place to go. Margie though, should have lent her car just to get them out of everyone's hair. That dog should just be locked out of the house. It's obviously not trained correctly.
Bill going to the hospital was no big surprise. He's been basically taking horse pills 3x a day just to get it up. He shouldn't even be proud of that. Obviously, it will have a negative effect on his heart and other organs. That should have been a given. Anytime when you take pills like that for extended periods (and not for anything important - like you'll die without them), it WILL cause lasting effects. He's just lucky his heart didn't explode. I didn't like how he blamed his family for this. They aren't to cause, his own male ego was. He shouldn't be lying about something like that, especially when HE got them evicted.
Margie is just whining cause she doesn't like lending her car out. She's being a spoiled brat. She isn't even help take care of them, mostly just complaining about them. She doesn't even LIVE in her own house, let alone have to put up with them. Stop crying little girl! Boo hoo, there's a scratch on her car. You can fix that easily. It's not destroyed, it's perfectly runnable. Chill out little girl, it's not the end of the world.
Barb has every right to feel the way that she does. She basically put her single marriage to the man she loves on hold, because he wants to screw younger chicks. Nikki needs to stop spying. She has enough problems to deal with, mind your fucking business bitch. And then, to be told that his brother isn't a polygamist...is like a slap in the face. I hope she realizes that it's not worth it.
That is a sad story about the daughter Maggie. It just goes to show how fucked up the sect is, and how asshole-ish those "sister" wives are. I don't think anyone is really picking on Fank either. He's a douche and pees in the sink. Fuck him. Then he has the nerve to tell Margie HOW to cut the meat? Get the fuck out.
I am not surprised that Fank is helping out Roman with the whole situation. Obviously Roman only care about what will get him the most. Right now, that happens to be with Roman. Roman is holding all the cards right now, and Fank tattling on Bill is really sad. I hope Bill finds out and finally gets Frank out of his life. Frank's entire family (minus Bill's mom, Joey and Wanda) have just been causing problems from the start. Thank god they can go home and get the fuck out now.
I don't think Bill is handling the situation very well with Roman. So far he started a brawl with some family who didn't have anything to do with, and now he is breaking into a house just to threaten him. That's nice. Just call the cops on him for the polygamy and pedophilia and be done with it. Apparently, Bill isn't so smart. He's not handling this well. Who the hell has 14 wives and thinks that okay?!
Naturally, we had to end the show with old man Bill getting laid. That's good ratings!!!
Big Love: Season 1, Episode 7
LDS missionaries are really NOT that forceful. In fact, everyone usually tries to shoot them before they even get to the door. It's very dangerous being a missionary, anywhere. Let alone, when they actually do get to the front door - they are fairly normal. They do their little mission statement, and then walk away if you're not interested. I can honestly say that the Jehova's Witnesses are even more creepier. You do know that they believe only like 4,000 people can go to heaven...yet they have like 1million members of their church. LOL
I find it insane that Roman is going to the extreme of threatening to bulldoze Bill's mother's gas station and home, and who knows what else. I know he doesn't like being "outed" and forced to comply, but Bill actually gave him a decent offer. Some money, and told him to leave his family the fuck alone. Otherwise, the Attorney General is going to get involved and we all know that won't go well for Roman.
I'm happy that Nikki is finally taking care of her bills now, but she is still hiding it from the family. She needs to acknowledge that she got out of control with her spending. I doubt she will be able to handle it herself, especially since she refuses to work. Even still, that's no reason to leave her kids running around. I honestly haven't ever seen Nikki even take care of them. Not once.
It seems like Pam the neighbor is just trying to forcefully convert Nikki and Margie. I'm not sure what the neighbors' issue is, but they haven't exactly been normal since they first showed up. You all heard my previous comments about them, so I won't bother repeating - but I'm sticking with, this isn't how normal LDS members act.
The way they depicted the LDS missionaries disgusts me. It shows me how little people actually KNOW about missionaries. Most of them are NOT pushy, and do NOT assume people are polygamists just because they can quote scripture. Usually they assume inactive, or a religious professor. Those are normal exceptions, and well within normal thinking range. We also do NOT force our religion on ANYONE. We don't try to "save" anyone, unlike the JWs. I could care less if you were a baptist...however, if you DO practice polygamy and marry a 12 yr old girl. I WILL call the cops. Otherwise, if everyone is of legal age, I don't care.
Roman apparently covered his bases when he had Joey sign that paper. What a dumbass. I would have read it first before I signed it. I read everything I sign. Like before you go into a doc's office, they make you sign a "you will not sue them" form. I never sign that, and I tell them willingly if they fuck up - I WILL sue them, so they better not fuck up.
I think that Ben REALLY got into a car accident by his friends driving recklessly. Not all LDS boys are like that. In fact, most of them are really mature and I was surprised that the writers depicted the seminary kids that way. In fact, my husband and his family all drive the speed limit and are super safe drivers. Plus, if they weren't I'd more then likely tell them to cut the shit out. I don't like unsafe drivers. I'm not sure what Ben is talking about on the phone, but I can assume that he means the LDS boys were playing with each other's penis'. Which I am 100% sure would NOT happen. Ew.
Epic with Sarah's friend. At least the friend won't tell anyone, and seems nice/normal. She didn't get too inquisitive, though she did know. I don't think they have anything to worry about with her.
I think the mexican guy is gay. I'm not sure why he would just hop in a car with some random stranger, and start sexually taking off his clothes. The whole vibe is pretty creepy. The sexual biting of the sandwhich is EW! Okay, I don't care if people are gay...but I don't want to see it. Just like I say ew when old man Bill is getting it on. Does this guy not realize he is going to get stabbed? The are you going to fuck or what, would have definitely been a NO!!! What the hell is wrong with Alby picking that guy up in the first place. Totally freaking out worked to get rid of him.
It's about time that Nikki got ratted out for lying about her bills. She is severely in debt, and causing Bill (and Barb by default) to be in debt. That's disgusting that she got away with it for so long. It's about time she had to pay the piper. Now Barb needs to get some balls and rat her out.
Roman's response must have been the eviction. Roman is about to get a shitstorm. I know it. Bill knows too many things about that community, and so does his family. If they could band together, I'm sure Roman would rue the day he evicted them all. He seems to really want to get arrested for all the shit he's been doing. I wouldn't blame anyone if they called the Attorney General now. Am I surprised that Alby broke in? Nope. Roman sent him off to do some dirty work, it didn't exactly matter what he attempted to do. I'm sure he got enough information to fuck with Bill, but I'm hoping Bill lays the smack down on this whole mess.
I find it insane that Roman is going to the extreme of threatening to bulldoze Bill's mother's gas station and home, and who knows what else. I know he doesn't like being "outed" and forced to comply, but Bill actually gave him a decent offer. Some money, and told him to leave his family the fuck alone. Otherwise, the Attorney General is going to get involved and we all know that won't go well for Roman.
I'm happy that Nikki is finally taking care of her bills now, but she is still hiding it from the family. She needs to acknowledge that she got out of control with her spending. I doubt she will be able to handle it herself, especially since she refuses to work. Even still, that's no reason to leave her kids running around. I honestly haven't ever seen Nikki even take care of them. Not once.
It seems like Pam the neighbor is just trying to forcefully convert Nikki and Margie. I'm not sure what the neighbors' issue is, but they haven't exactly been normal since they first showed up. You all heard my previous comments about them, so I won't bother repeating - but I'm sticking with, this isn't how normal LDS members act.
The way they depicted the LDS missionaries disgusts me. It shows me how little people actually KNOW about missionaries. Most of them are NOT pushy, and do NOT assume people are polygamists just because they can quote scripture. Usually they assume inactive, or a religious professor. Those are normal exceptions, and well within normal thinking range. We also do NOT force our religion on ANYONE. We don't try to "save" anyone, unlike the JWs. I could care less if you were a baptist...however, if you DO practice polygamy and marry a 12 yr old girl. I WILL call the cops. Otherwise, if everyone is of legal age, I don't care.
Roman apparently covered his bases when he had Joey sign that paper. What a dumbass. I would have read it first before I signed it. I read everything I sign. Like before you go into a doc's office, they make you sign a "you will not sue them" form. I never sign that, and I tell them willingly if they fuck up - I WILL sue them, so they better not fuck up.
I think that Ben REALLY got into a car accident by his friends driving recklessly. Not all LDS boys are like that. In fact, most of them are really mature and I was surprised that the writers depicted the seminary kids that way. In fact, my husband and his family all drive the speed limit and are super safe drivers. Plus, if they weren't I'd more then likely tell them to cut the shit out. I don't like unsafe drivers. I'm not sure what Ben is talking about on the phone, but I can assume that he means the LDS boys were playing with each other's penis'. Which I am 100% sure would NOT happen. Ew.
Epic with Sarah's friend. At least the friend won't tell anyone, and seems nice/normal. She didn't get too inquisitive, though she did know. I don't think they have anything to worry about with her.
I think the mexican guy is gay. I'm not sure why he would just hop in a car with some random stranger, and start sexually taking off his clothes. The whole vibe is pretty creepy. The sexual biting of the sandwhich is EW! Okay, I don't care if people are gay...but I don't want to see it. Just like I say ew when old man Bill is getting it on. Does this guy not realize he is going to get stabbed? The are you going to fuck or what, would have definitely been a NO!!! What the hell is wrong with Alby picking that guy up in the first place. Totally freaking out worked to get rid of him.
It's about time that Nikki got ratted out for lying about her bills. She is severely in debt, and causing Bill (and Barb by default) to be in debt. That's disgusting that she got away with it for so long. It's about time she had to pay the piper. Now Barb needs to get some balls and rat her out.
Roman's response must have been the eviction. Roman is about to get a shitstorm. I know it. Bill knows too many things about that community, and so does his family. If they could band together, I'm sure Roman would rue the day he evicted them all. He seems to really want to get arrested for all the shit he's been doing. I wouldn't blame anyone if they called the Attorney General now. Am I surprised that Alby broke in? Nope. Roman sent him off to do some dirty work, it didn't exactly matter what he attempted to do. I'm sure he got enough information to fuck with Bill, but I'm hoping Bill lays the smack down on this whole mess.
Big Love: Season 1, Episode 6
Naturally, we started out with a sex scene. Woot.... -.-
Omg! I knew Nikki was lying about wanting to get pregnant! She just took a birth control pill! It's her payback on Barb. This is Nikki's way of getting Bill to herself whenever she wants him.
I think Ben had every right to yell at Margie. Margie was warned several times not to give out too much information to the neighbors, nor spend too much time with them. So, what does the childish one do? She does the opposite of what she is told. Little does she know that it can cause a ripple effect. Everything she said could be used against them.
It serves Nikki right for having that much trouble at the store. She caused herself to go into debt, and then tried to play off that she was Barb. She did all of that because she is jealous of Barb, and wants the attention of it all. Nikki is fucking childish, and yes if she wants to use BARB'S family discount - then you need to ask BARB. Your name isn't Barb, and you're NOT the 1st wife. Way to have a temper tantrum.
I'm not surprised that his dad needed to be bribed to make Bill's mom first wife. I'm not sure why he had rescinded his original agreement, but I think after putting up with him for over 40 yrs, she deserves it. $5,000 and a ton of tar + shingles....I'm not sure if it was worth all of that.
I am disgusted that he basically told his son that plural marriage is good for him. It's disgusting, illegal, immoral, etc. Way to teach your son the WRONG thing!
Omg! I knew Nikki was lying about wanting to get pregnant! She just took a birth control pill! It's her payback on Barb. This is Nikki's way of getting Bill to herself whenever she wants him.
I think Ben had every right to yell at Margie. Margie was warned several times not to give out too much information to the neighbors, nor spend too much time with them. So, what does the childish one do? She does the opposite of what she is told. Little does she know that it can cause a ripple effect. Everything she said could be used against them.
It serves Nikki right for having that much trouble at the store. She caused herself to go into debt, and then tried to play off that she was Barb. She did all of that because she is jealous of Barb, and wants the attention of it all. Nikki is fucking childish, and yes if she wants to use BARB'S family discount - then you need to ask BARB. Your name isn't Barb, and you're NOT the 1st wife. Way to have a temper tantrum.
I'm not surprised that his dad needed to be bribed to make Bill's mom first wife. I'm not sure why he had rescinded his original agreement, but I think after putting up with him for over 40 yrs, she deserves it. $5,000 and a ton of tar + shingles....I'm not sure if it was worth all of that.
I am disgusted that he basically told his son that plural marriage is good for him. It's disgusting, illegal, immoral, etc. Way to teach your son the WRONG thing!
Big Love: Season 1, Episode 5
I'm not sure why Nikki seems to think she has so much power in this "plural" marriage. Technically, Barb isn't married to the two chicks, she's just married to Bill. If she wanted to become a stripper, it's none of Nikki's business. It really doesn't affect those two at all, besides that Barb's money is supposedly going to their whiney asses. Nikki isn't exactly the one to be talking about self-sacrifice, when so far we haven't seen her sacrifice ANYTHING. And when she is FORCED to sacrifice, she has childish fits.
Also, why is Nikki always just letting her kids go wild? Even Margie is attempting to fix what they are messing up in the store. Why isn't Nikki watching and taking care of her kids? So what if Barb doesn't go grocery shopping, she's out with Bill - not working. Maybe Nikki should wait until she has all the facts before she jumps to conclusions. Plus Barb provides money for Nikki to run around doing said grocery shopping. I feel absolutely no pity for Nikki at all. She says she's glad they had it out because she was tired of the pettiness, but honestly, I only see Nikki being petty and pathetic. She also completely ditched Margie with her kids while she ran off to do her own thing. And Nikki bitches about Barb! Pfft! I'm sure Margie has more of a reason to bitch about Nikki!
I've said this before, Bill is very insecure. He only wanted to jump Barb's bones the minute someone else thought she was hot. The senator or whatever was staring at her, and Bill decides to appease his jealousy by doing her in the car. Real manly. For once, he didn't even need to use a viagra! For that matter, why does he need to hide the empty bottle? I'm pretty sure some of them guessed something was instantly "up" when he wasn't going limp dicked on the other two chicks anymore.
I know that they are trying to keep it "fair" between all the wives, but honestly if he wants to screw his wife of 17 yrs - who was his one and original wife for years, then he can. If she gets more time then one of the others, oh fucking well, that's the comfort of being #1.
I'm sure that Ben (?) is going through a difficult time right now with his hormones, but I'm sorry, you don't get turned on shop class. That's just mentally fucked up. That can't even be blamed on hormones, and honestly how do you turn a piece of wood sexual!? I honestly hated seminary, and not just the men go. My husband attended seminary and he's not a snotty little asshole. He DOES have opinions, but then again this is coming from the town whore. We were never brainwashed, and never thought our bodies were dirty. LOL Whoever the fuck wrote that into there is a religious bigot.
I thought it was funny when they called the attorney general with the anonymous tip. I don't think Wendy bought his excuse, and honestly he should have said something like "yeah that's his sisters, and they wanted to know who was going to cut his hair". Situation diffused. Plus, Roman's response to the audit was hysterical. That business doesn't belong to him, so it's none of his business how the Bill's company is going.
Nikki is so fucking stupid. Apparently instead of assuming that he really does love his wife, she assumed there's another wife coming into the mix. What a moron. I'm surprised that she would be so happy with another wife. I wouldn't be happy at all with another, if I were her. Even less time with him. I'm surprised, and no Barb wouldn't "need a talking to" about another wife. If he wanted another wife, Barb seems like she couldn't handle even another one. Even with the little intervention they had with Margie, Nikki came across as a bitch agian. Why is she being such a snooping bitch? Fuck, why did he marry her?! I like how when she talks to Barb she acts like she is totally against it, yet to her friends she's estactic.
I know Margie doesn't have any friends or anything anymore, but that is life after marriage. Most wives (only wives) live's revolve around their children. For shit, she didn't even remember to put a diaper on her kid before the neighbor came over. She's not exactly someone I would want to be friends with either.
I don't think Nikki is really pregnant. I think she's just pissed about what Alby said and how Bill has been sneaking around with Barb. It's her form of payback.
Also, why is Nikki always just letting her kids go wild? Even Margie is attempting to fix what they are messing up in the store. Why isn't Nikki watching and taking care of her kids? So what if Barb doesn't go grocery shopping, she's out with Bill - not working. Maybe Nikki should wait until she has all the facts before she jumps to conclusions. Plus Barb provides money for Nikki to run around doing said grocery shopping. I feel absolutely no pity for Nikki at all. She says she's glad they had it out because she was tired of the pettiness, but honestly, I only see Nikki being petty and pathetic. She also completely ditched Margie with her kids while she ran off to do her own thing. And Nikki bitches about Barb! Pfft! I'm sure Margie has more of a reason to bitch about Nikki!
I've said this before, Bill is very insecure. He only wanted to jump Barb's bones the minute someone else thought she was hot. The senator or whatever was staring at her, and Bill decides to appease his jealousy by doing her in the car. Real manly. For once, he didn't even need to use a viagra! For that matter, why does he need to hide the empty bottle? I'm pretty sure some of them guessed something was instantly "up" when he wasn't going limp dicked on the other two chicks anymore.
I know that they are trying to keep it "fair" between all the wives, but honestly if he wants to screw his wife of 17 yrs - who was his one and original wife for years, then he can. If she gets more time then one of the others, oh fucking well, that's the comfort of being #1.
I'm sure that Ben (?) is going through a difficult time right now with his hormones, but I'm sorry, you don't get turned on shop class. That's just mentally fucked up. That can't even be blamed on hormones, and honestly how do you turn a piece of wood sexual!? I honestly hated seminary, and not just the men go. My husband attended seminary and he's not a snotty little asshole. He DOES have opinions, but then again this is coming from the town whore. We were never brainwashed, and never thought our bodies were dirty. LOL Whoever the fuck wrote that into there is a religious bigot.
I thought it was funny when they called the attorney general with the anonymous tip. I don't think Wendy bought his excuse, and honestly he should have said something like "yeah that's his sisters, and they wanted to know who was going to cut his hair". Situation diffused. Plus, Roman's response to the audit was hysterical. That business doesn't belong to him, so it's none of his business how the Bill's company is going.
Nikki is so fucking stupid. Apparently instead of assuming that he really does love his wife, she assumed there's another wife coming into the mix. What a moron. I'm surprised that she would be so happy with another wife. I wouldn't be happy at all with another, if I were her. Even less time with him. I'm surprised, and no Barb wouldn't "need a talking to" about another wife. If he wanted another wife, Barb seems like she couldn't handle even another one. Even with the little intervention they had with Margie, Nikki came across as a bitch agian. Why is she being such a snooping bitch? Fuck, why did he marry her?! I like how when she talks to Barb she acts like she is totally against it, yet to her friends she's estactic.
I know Margie doesn't have any friends or anything anymore, but that is life after marriage. Most wives (only wives) live's revolve around their children. For shit, she didn't even remember to put a diaper on her kid before the neighbor came over. She's not exactly someone I would want to be friends with either.
I don't think Nikki is really pregnant. I think she's just pissed about what Alby said and how Bill has been sneaking around with Barb. It's her form of payback.
Thursday, August 26, 2010
Big Love: Season 1, Episode 4
If you are forcing your #1 spouse to schedule your nights with your other wives, and she does it efficiently...when she gives you the sheet of paper - remember who's fucking turn it is jackass! How difficult can that be. He's not even the one stressing over doing all the planning, he sits pretty and just goes to whatever house is on the list. You can't even blame that on his "many responsibilities". It's really not fucking hard. Look at the paper, go to said house. And to make matters worse, he looked so disgusted just because had to hand her a heating pad and a midol. Omg, wow, that is so fucked up.
When you wake up with a boner, you don't need to jerk off in order to get rid of it. In fact, that usually takes longer. The minute you stop thinking about it and worrying is how it goes away. Which usually takes about 5-10minutes. Asked the husband and 3 other male relatives for this response.
Nikki shouldn't complain about how her shit was screwed up with the party, when she's the one that wanted it and ruined it. She also shouldn't complain about tablecloths being ruined, when she shouldn't of used them. Especially, shouldn't of bought such exspensive ones. I'm not sure why Nikki needs to be such a controlling bitch about the sheets. At least she was slightly understanding about the situation, however she didn't need to be such a forceful bitch about it.
I'm honestly not even surprised that Nikki is getting calls from debt collectors. If she had gotten a handle on her spending, it wouldn't have been such an issue. I'm not sure why she even wanted all that new stuff for anyways, she has young MALE children in her house. Anything she brings in there is likely to be destroyed before the year is up. I know, I have two FEMALE kids. She shouldn't even be attempting to hide this from people either. She's in serious trouble and could lose the house, or maybe more. She is definitely drawing attention to their "situation".
The neighbors are getting creepier. Before watching them like hawks, being all creepy with the introduction (only when it was beneficial to them), and now standing outside the front door trying to star inside? Why is this any of his business anyways? Why does it matter if the neighbor is their babysitter or anything else for that matter? Apparently the neighbor is also sexist, why wouldn't he talk to Barb? What is the issue with Nikki (aside from being a psychotic bitch)? For that matter, how is it any of his business...again? I think it was just a ruse to snoop on them, and he got caught, so he didn't know what to say. Now he has time to figure out a decent excuse. I also don't think it was right to treat the girls like they didn't have a final decision in a "house painting project". That didn't seem reason enough to blow off Barb, and it seemed rather sexist to ignore Barb like that.
Margie apparently doesn't get that they are breaking the law, and are attempting to keep their situation hush hush. She's not helping matters, and if worse comes to worse they will need to move just to keep the "family" together. God, what an idiot of her. This is NOT the time to want to be "recognized" as part of the family. Poor baby, she's insulted because she got called a babysitter. Newsflash: You are one. If you have kids, you are their insta-babysitter. No reason to get all huffy about it. No one cares about your feelings when it comes to security.
What is wrong with Margie not wanting to help out when Nikki obviously has something more important to do then stare at a scale. I'm sure the other wives have babysat Margie's kids before (we saw them on several occassions), and honestly Margie seems self-absorbed.
I did find it funny how Nikki went directly into a manipulation tactic of: Well, I need money..."Oh ask Barb"...You give her too much power... Oh my god...she went to her father/prophet for money. After the way Bill told her that he was bad, she just went right ahead anyways. She's also lying through her fucking teeth! Now, I see why she's lying about it. Because he's a co-signer on her credit cards. What a dumb fuck. What happens when her kid REALLY has the chicken pox? What the hell! $6,000! That's only one card too!! Good of her father to remove himself as co-signer. She deserved that shit, I loved her face through it too. I'm not sure why he was even coddling her anymore anyways, she doesn't even live with him anymore - and is definately an adult. He just blackmailed his own daughter.
I wasn't surprised that Roman got his brother into a scheme. I'm not even surprised that he's getting sued for his other triangle schemes. I think that's justice. However, I don't think Roman is really scared shitless about it. I think he's slightly worried, but usually those schemes aren't really taken to court. It's always hard to find the man at the top, so he's fairly safe.
However, I WAS insulted at how Bill told Barb to ask the other two wives if it was okay that she work. Why the fuck would she need to do that? I know it might technically affect the other wives, but you know what, she's allowed to have her own life too. In fact, they could use the money. So, what's the big deal?
Apparently Nikki went shopping after her "emergency". She hasn't learned her lesson at all. I know she is pmsing, but that doesn't give her the excuse to constantly act like this, and yes the outfit was her fault. It was originally left in her hands, and if she had time to go to Gap - then she had time to fix it. She shouldn't left it in the care of Margie (btw get over the babysitter thing, it's been a few hours), who obviously can't even make a bottle properly. I also don't think Nikki has any right to get mad at anyone for anything, so far she has created these little fits in order to get her way. She did mean to upset him. She purposely does what she wants and has no care if people get mad at her. I think she doesn't care who she hurts with what she does, as long as she gets to do whatever she wants to do.
I love the Suzi Orman show, and she had a point. Nikki doesn't even know exactly how much debt there is, and since Bill is legally responsible for that debt too - he really needs to know. What happens when he goes to open up a new store and he can't get the credit for it? He's definitely going to know then. At least, she is now taking responsibility for her actions. Or at least attempting to. She's probably going to go back into denial land, and for shit! $60,000! Holy shit! That's like 3 new cars!
I'm not sure if this is what the show's creators are trying to convey, but I'm sorry, most people don't talk to God in their dreams. In fact, even if God did talk to someone, I'm pretty sure they'd remember and be able to tell immediately. I don't think God does some type of drive-by enlightening.
I know that people can get addicted to pretty much everything, however I don't think that many people get addicted to TV. LOL I think we have more of a problem with drinking, drugs, and sex. Some people get so addicted to porn that they don't move from their computer in days! Those are serious addictions, TV not so much.
When Nikki locked herself in the bathroom, I saw it as a childish temper tantrum. I have no respect for "adults" who act like children. She's been acting worse then her 5 yr old this entire show so far. I'm really not impressed with the actors or their roles so far. The only person I have somewhat respect for is Barb. If I knew Nikki in real life, I'd beat the shit out of her. Telling her that her children need her, really doesn't work with someone like that. Hold up a pair of brand new cowboy boots, and she'll smell it. That will get her selfish ass out. I don't think Nikki has ANY say in what Barb does or doesn't do with her life. If anything, Nikki should be all over that - what with being $60k in debt. (I also think she needs to stop with the nasty looks)
I think it's pretty unbalanced that Barb has to take care of everything, while Bill goes out hunting and doing whatever he wants to do. Barb is dealing with majority of the issues, and honestly it doesn't seem like he cares at all about her. I am praying that somewhere in this, she actually gets the balls to leave his ass.
I'm not sure why the teenager (Sarah) even decided to go to that party, or why she is downing cough syrup like there is no tomorrow. Sarah also looks like she is out of place, and really uncomfortable. So, why is she even there? Her friend totally ditched her, just leave. Apparently her friend REALLY is a whore. Who the fuck basically has sex out in the open like that? For that matter, with someone she just met? Her friend is sooo classy! Good thing the LDS chick showed up when she did.
I'm not sure why Bill is acting like some starved lunatic. Sure, he fasted for a day, big whoop. It was only 24 hrs, and honestly, you don't act like that after fasting. You just eat bigger portions, and usually it's a sit-down meal. Not pulling out left overs and feasting like a starved monster. Get a plate and stop being so disgusting, you freak! (PS. I hate jello, that looked even nastier) No, fasting does not make you hallucinate. I think he's a little psychotic to begin with, and add on this "stress" that he caused himself - he's seeing shit he shouldn't. No, I don't think it's a vision from God. I think he's just a fruitball to begin with. (IF he fasted longer then that, he's a fucking idiot)
When you wake up with a boner, you don't need to jerk off in order to get rid of it. In fact, that usually takes longer. The minute you stop thinking about it and worrying is how it goes away. Which usually takes about 5-10minutes. Asked the husband and 3 other male relatives for this response.
Nikki shouldn't complain about how her shit was screwed up with the party, when she's the one that wanted it and ruined it. She also shouldn't complain about tablecloths being ruined, when she shouldn't of used them. Especially, shouldn't of bought such exspensive ones. I'm not sure why Nikki needs to be such a controlling bitch about the sheets. At least she was slightly understanding about the situation, however she didn't need to be such a forceful bitch about it.
I'm honestly not even surprised that Nikki is getting calls from debt collectors. If she had gotten a handle on her spending, it wouldn't have been such an issue. I'm not sure why she even wanted all that new stuff for anyways, she has young MALE children in her house. Anything she brings in there is likely to be destroyed before the year is up. I know, I have two FEMALE kids. She shouldn't even be attempting to hide this from people either. She's in serious trouble and could lose the house, or maybe more. She is definitely drawing attention to their "situation".
The neighbors are getting creepier. Before watching them like hawks, being all creepy with the introduction (only when it was beneficial to them), and now standing outside the front door trying to star inside? Why is this any of his business anyways? Why does it matter if the neighbor is their babysitter or anything else for that matter? Apparently the neighbor is also sexist, why wouldn't he talk to Barb? What is the issue with Nikki (aside from being a psychotic bitch)? For that matter, how is it any of his business...again? I think it was just a ruse to snoop on them, and he got caught, so he didn't know what to say. Now he has time to figure out a decent excuse. I also don't think it was right to treat the girls like they didn't have a final decision in a "house painting project". That didn't seem reason enough to blow off Barb, and it seemed rather sexist to ignore Barb like that.
Margie apparently doesn't get that they are breaking the law, and are attempting to keep their situation hush hush. She's not helping matters, and if worse comes to worse they will need to move just to keep the "family" together. God, what an idiot of her. This is NOT the time to want to be "recognized" as part of the family. Poor baby, she's insulted because she got called a babysitter. Newsflash: You are one. If you have kids, you are their insta-babysitter. No reason to get all huffy about it. No one cares about your feelings when it comes to security.
What is wrong with Margie not wanting to help out when Nikki obviously has something more important to do then stare at a scale. I'm sure the other wives have babysat Margie's kids before (we saw them on several occassions), and honestly Margie seems self-absorbed.
I did find it funny how Nikki went directly into a manipulation tactic of: Well, I need money..."Oh ask Barb"...You give her too much power... Oh my god...she went to her father/prophet for money. After the way Bill told her that he was bad, she just went right ahead anyways. She's also lying through her fucking teeth! Now, I see why she's lying about it. Because he's a co-signer on her credit cards. What a dumb fuck. What happens when her kid REALLY has the chicken pox? What the hell! $6,000! That's only one card too!! Good of her father to remove himself as co-signer. She deserved that shit, I loved her face through it too. I'm not sure why he was even coddling her anymore anyways, she doesn't even live with him anymore - and is definately an adult. He just blackmailed his own daughter.
I wasn't surprised that Roman got his brother into a scheme. I'm not even surprised that he's getting sued for his other triangle schemes. I think that's justice. However, I don't think Roman is really scared shitless about it. I think he's slightly worried, but usually those schemes aren't really taken to court. It's always hard to find the man at the top, so he's fairly safe.
However, I WAS insulted at how Bill told Barb to ask the other two wives if it was okay that she work. Why the fuck would she need to do that? I know it might technically affect the other wives, but you know what, she's allowed to have her own life too. In fact, they could use the money. So, what's the big deal?
Apparently Nikki went shopping after her "emergency". She hasn't learned her lesson at all. I know she is pmsing, but that doesn't give her the excuse to constantly act like this, and yes the outfit was her fault. It was originally left in her hands, and if she had time to go to Gap - then she had time to fix it. She shouldn't left it in the care of Margie (btw get over the babysitter thing, it's been a few hours), who obviously can't even make a bottle properly. I also don't think Nikki has any right to get mad at anyone for anything, so far she has created these little fits in order to get her way. She did mean to upset him. She purposely does what she wants and has no care if people get mad at her. I think she doesn't care who she hurts with what she does, as long as she gets to do whatever she wants to do.
I love the Suzi Orman show, and she had a point. Nikki doesn't even know exactly how much debt there is, and since Bill is legally responsible for that debt too - he really needs to know. What happens when he goes to open up a new store and he can't get the credit for it? He's definitely going to know then. At least, she is now taking responsibility for her actions. Or at least attempting to. She's probably going to go back into denial land, and for shit! $60,000! Holy shit! That's like 3 new cars!
I'm not sure if this is what the show's creators are trying to convey, but I'm sorry, most people don't talk to God in their dreams. In fact, even if God did talk to someone, I'm pretty sure they'd remember and be able to tell immediately. I don't think God does some type of drive-by enlightening.
I know that people can get addicted to pretty much everything, however I don't think that many people get addicted to TV. LOL I think we have more of a problem with drinking, drugs, and sex. Some people get so addicted to porn that they don't move from their computer in days! Those are serious addictions, TV not so much.
When Nikki locked herself in the bathroom, I saw it as a childish temper tantrum. I have no respect for "adults" who act like children. She's been acting worse then her 5 yr old this entire show so far. I'm really not impressed with the actors or their roles so far. The only person I have somewhat respect for is Barb. If I knew Nikki in real life, I'd beat the shit out of her. Telling her that her children need her, really doesn't work with someone like that. Hold up a pair of brand new cowboy boots, and she'll smell it. That will get her selfish ass out. I don't think Nikki has ANY say in what Barb does or doesn't do with her life. If anything, Nikki should be all over that - what with being $60k in debt. (I also think she needs to stop with the nasty looks)
I think it's pretty unbalanced that Barb has to take care of everything, while Bill goes out hunting and doing whatever he wants to do. Barb is dealing with majority of the issues, and honestly it doesn't seem like he cares at all about her. I am praying that somewhere in this, she actually gets the balls to leave his ass.
I'm not sure why the teenager (Sarah) even decided to go to that party, or why she is downing cough syrup like there is no tomorrow. Sarah also looks like she is out of place, and really uncomfortable. So, why is she even there? Her friend totally ditched her, just leave. Apparently her friend REALLY is a whore. Who the fuck basically has sex out in the open like that? For that matter, with someone she just met? Her friend is sooo classy! Good thing the LDS chick showed up when she did.
I'm not sure why Bill is acting like some starved lunatic. Sure, he fasted for a day, big whoop. It was only 24 hrs, and honestly, you don't act like that after fasting. You just eat bigger portions, and usually it's a sit-down meal. Not pulling out left overs and feasting like a starved monster. Get a plate and stop being so disgusting, you freak! (PS. I hate jello, that looked even nastier) No, fasting does not make you hallucinate. I think he's a little psychotic to begin with, and add on this "stress" that he caused himself - he's seeing shit he shouldn't. No, I don't think it's a vision from God. I think he's just a fruitball to begin with. (IF he fasted longer then that, he's a fucking idiot)
Big Love: Season 1, Episode 3
I cannot even imagine my relief when I realized this episode didn't start out with old man having sex again. I took a big gulp of air and said, I don't want to see that nasty shit again (and no his ass is not attractive, stop showing me it)...and omg...for once outta 3 episodes, this ONE episode doesn't have sex in the first minute of the show!!!
I thought it was funny the dad was sitting outside in a chair, perfectly comfy, with a shotgun, waiting on her. I'd do the same shit if I thought she tried to kill me too. Arsenic is a very nasty poison, and causes severe pain/hallucinations/puking before you get serious enough for death to creep up on you. I watch a lot of forensic shows. It's a nasty way to kill someone.
Why the fuck is Nikki spending even more money again? I don't know what her spoiled ass issue is, but she doesn't even buy FOOD....get a clue! Your priorities are screwed up! If that's for her kid's party, then even still...you're fucking retarded! My kids get a home baked cake (eldest is 5, same age), and lots of presents. Kids that age don't care! For that matter, it's not even about spending too much money by itself...it's she can't AFFORD IT!
I'm not sure why he got Margie a car. I know it was a good decision, however I think NOW she needs to get a job and help PAY for the car. She needed it for the kids sure, but you just don't giving out cars like that. My husband and I both pay for our cars. There's no way I'd force him to take on that financial responsibility for the both of us.
I know Nikki heard them talking about car bombs and the prophet. She has to know something is going on. I don't think she is that retarded not to know, for that matter she seems to be attention seeking with this party. This isn't really about the kid(s), but about HER.
Even with the meeting about security, she acted like nothing was wrong - like she didn't overhear jack shit. I don't like the relation to Elizabeth Smart, she was LDS not FLDS! That was also a very rare case that doesn't happen often. They seem to have overactive imaginations. I highly doubt a cougar is going to go into their backyards...in the middle of SLC.
I like how the minute outsiders who up, they act like they are just normal LDS. I mean, what the fuck. It also wasn't in 1890, but in 1835. That's when the Doctrine and Covenants was created, and considered as another form of our teachings. In 1850 (!!) was when we actually changed church law and banned it. In fact, even in the original church when it was created in the 1600s - polygamy was only allowed because we were ostracized from the church. Because we were doing a trek across the united states, women were being left homeless and shelterless...left to fend for themselves. So people took another wife in order to secure their safety and basic human rights. THAT is the REAL reason for polygamy.
Every church says they are the one true church. If you are a break off of another church, it's highly unlikely that you're actually the "true" church especially when a key function like Polygamy acceptance is changed. I'm sorry, the fact you marry 12 yr old girls means that your church isn't a church, but actually full of nasty old men. I like how he completely lied to the press' face. You married a 12 yr old girl, and no you didn't root out shit. He's part of the main reason there are issues there.
I can't believe that Nikki actually KNOWS she has a spending problem, and continue to lie about! If she honestly had an issue, she wouldn't see a problem with telling the truth. But, since she knows there is a problem, she's purposely trying to cover it up. And no, it's NOT for Wayne. It's for HER. She wants it to be all about HER. He has complete right to get angry at her. I find highly disrespectful that her father was even asked to pay for it, let alone IS going to pay for it. That's wrong. Her husband or her should pay for it, not the daddy who is no longer involved in their lives. She was definitely changing the subject, and honestly he has everytime to get mad at her dad's little scheme to make even more money. It doesn't effect her position in the family, everyone still sees her as a bitch. Cry more. You're just upset you can't spend $50,000 on a 5 yr old's bday. Pity party!
She also totally ignored Bill's rant about not spending money, and not inviting her father. Apparently she's going to keep making this about her, and ignore everything that is said to her. Didn't she realize with the home security system, that there is obviously something NOT right. I have no idea why Nikki keeps being a bitch and ruining her own life. She obviously didn't come from a ton of money, so why does she think she can spend it freely. Let alone, after his reaction, did she really think it was a good idea to invite her dad? Come on now. Think! I think because Bill said she couldn't spend that much money on a birthday party, she decided to defy what he said in some other way. Childish!
I hope that Margie realizes driving is a priveledge, and since she's not paying for the car - she should be careful. Especially with someone else's kid in the car! She's very irresponsible, and acts like a child. How dare she ask Barb's daughter to babysit her kids while she goes on a joyride. If she was using that car properly, she would take the kids WITH her.
I honestly thought the new neighbor was fake. I think the only real reason he introduced himself was because of the commercial, and he wants props in saying he knows/lives near the Hendrickson guy. It's like our neighbors, been there for months and the only time they introduce themselves is when they noticed we were babysitting their fucked up kids. After that, didn't hear from them again - besides the anonymous notes. I like Barb's dealing with the situation, "we keep to ourselves". LOL Good going! (Also, after the party when they turned off their porch light and went inside, I was like do you have nothing better to do then to stare at people all day? Why don't you mind your business...however, these people are breaking the law and shit sooo...)
I'm not sure what world Bill lives on, but him telling Don that the prophet will just "give up" is ludicrous. The prophet only cares about money, and with that many kids, of course his money issues will overlap. I don't think the prophet cares who he hurts in order to get his money, I wouldda just called the cops and told them "hey, I'm being extorted, here's all the information". I know they risk "exposure", but if they were honestly doing something LEGAL - they'd have help.
I thought it was funny when Margie invaded his mom's personal space, and the mom was all like...okay and who are you? I don't blame her for saying Margie was young either. Honestly, I'm surprised Barb wasn't highly insulted that he kept picking up younger wives. I'm sure it's not their "minds" that attracted him to them first. I found it tacky, that unlike his friend "Don", he seemed to pick younger girls...not girls his own wife's age. That's not right. He inadvertently made Barb and Nikki feel unattracted, Barb twice so.
Nikki is the biggest fucking bitch ever. She's now lying to her husband, just to "get her way". I'm sorry honey, but this time you royally fucked up. I hope that she gets it in the end. Apparently, dumbass bitch doesn't realize how serious the situation is. Newsflash: If he got a SECUTIY SYSTEM in the house, and people at work are being attacked, it's a dire situatin. You can't just be "one family" after that. She's even more of an idiot to try and say "fix it then", "be a peacemaker". What the fuck is that chick smoking? I know it's her father, but she probably has no idea who her father even is. He seems like an evil, old man that only cares about his money.
Actually, if he told her the reason she couldn't spend all that money or have her little party in the first place was because of her father, I'm sure she'd be a little more cooperative. I'm surprised that Roman/Prophet said that it was okay to put their differences aside for the sake of pressence. I'm sure he didn't want to look bad in front of the entire list of guests. However, did the old guy just take credit for Barb's health?
I felt bad for Wayne, the kid. This is supposed to be a party for him, and it turns out it's all about Nikki. Again. What kind of mother does that! Little guy looked miserable. Funny that even her own mother is saying to beat a bitch if she doesn't listen. He didn't even have fun on that poney, and she seemed to have wasted time getting him to ride it. Must of been another attention thing. I hope they don't have to keep it, where would they even put it!
I'm worried that Bill's brother might have the hots for Barb. He seemed a little TOO close to her, and he was really flattering her a lot. Shouldn't he be giving thar ring to his own child, once it comes? He also seems a lot closer to Bill's eldest boy then Bill actually does.
It seems like things weren't put on hold, or the little Rhonda has her own agenda. I know she misses her friend, but trying to convince her to do stuff with the "old sect" is just asking for trouble. I liked the guilt trip she gave her. LOL I can't believe the little tramp is even PROUD of breaking the law. She's PROUD of her situation, and loves to flaunt it. I think old Roman only likes her best because she's barely even an adult. I'm sure the other wives don't necessarily hate her because she's young, but because of her shitty attitude. And way to dodge the love question by talking about obedience. LOL (I KNEW that bitch would DO something! She just stole that chick's ipod! Even if she didn't steal it, that girl had to work her butt off to afford it - and I'm sure she would just manipulate her to give it over)
I STILL don't believe that he'd actually take a what, 200 yr old? guitar that was in a glass case, to play for a kid's birthday party. It doesn't look that old, and honestly if it was worth that much (and on a mural for fuck's sake), then either it's fake or he's fucking retarded. Nikki also totally interrupted guitar time, because apparently she can't last more then 2minutes without having the attention focused on her.
It's terrible that she knows the name brand names. If everything isn't about materilistic things, then why does she fucking know all of this? It's kid's shoes and she knows all of them just by sight? What is she even teaching this kid? Why does she care about the brand so much? Apparently, she ordered all of it for her kid just because. And, apparently going to a local store for all of it was too hard for her, because then it wouldn't be named brand. Even her own mother has this look on her face of "wtf". It's sad that she even got him a gift card to some place he's never even heard of! She's turning things into all about her posessions...what kind of mother is that!
Though mommy is a little off the mark about coercing Margie into marriage. While I think he did prey on her (she is technically 20 yrs younger then him?), because she lived in a very small town and just wanted out. I don't think he actually forced her into anything. Yes, he is a sleeze for marrying so young, but she was over 20 when they got married, right?
Everyone looks super pleased to be there! LOL Only Nikki is happy about the party. Everyone else either looks miserable, bored, or wanting to run. Apparently, Nikki wanted even MORE attention so she started yet another song! Yeah, cause you can tell they totally wanted to do that! Apparently she didn't get the hint when no one started singing. So, naturally, as an attention whore, we need to pick up the kid and keep pointing (it's another manipulation tactic).
Wow she is such a bitch! I wouldda asked too since she was basically stabbing it with a spoon. She's such a bitch! Her reaction is the exact reason why I have no idea why he even bothered to ruin his and Barb's marraige by marrying her ass. Then to have a little bitch fit like that in front of their guests is like what the fuck. Grow up! Apparently, since she can't have his attention (wow, talk about clingy), she has now decided to make everyone else miserable at the party. It seems like she is a little TOO close to her dad. Apparently, all she cares about is Daddy and not really Bill. All it took was 2minutes of attention from the prophet to get her back to giggling.
I almost felt bad for Roman. He actually looked and spoke like he misses spending time with his daughter. However, I can't tell if he hates Bill just because of the money thing or because of his daughter. I think if he had to choose between his daughter and money, he might go with money.
Why are they apologizing for her own party going like shit? Why is she even moping around about it? NIKKI caused that shit herself!! Maybe if she wasn't such a psychotic, clingy bitch - and actually about her kid - it would have gone better! And no, you don't fit in because you're a crazy bitch!
I thought it was funny the dad was sitting outside in a chair, perfectly comfy, with a shotgun, waiting on her. I'd do the same shit if I thought she tried to kill me too. Arsenic is a very nasty poison, and causes severe pain/hallucinations/puking before you get serious enough for death to creep up on you. I watch a lot of forensic shows. It's a nasty way to kill someone.
Why the fuck is Nikki spending even more money again? I don't know what her spoiled ass issue is, but she doesn't even buy FOOD....get a clue! Your priorities are screwed up! If that's for her kid's party, then even still...you're fucking retarded! My kids get a home baked cake (eldest is 5, same age), and lots of presents. Kids that age don't care! For that matter, it's not even about spending too much money by itself...it's she can't AFFORD IT!
I'm not sure why he got Margie a car. I know it was a good decision, however I think NOW she needs to get a job and help PAY for the car. She needed it for the kids sure, but you just don't giving out cars like that. My husband and I both pay for our cars. There's no way I'd force him to take on that financial responsibility for the both of us.
I know Nikki heard them talking about car bombs and the prophet. She has to know something is going on. I don't think she is that retarded not to know, for that matter she seems to be attention seeking with this party. This isn't really about the kid(s), but about HER.
Even with the meeting about security, she acted like nothing was wrong - like she didn't overhear jack shit. I don't like the relation to Elizabeth Smart, she was LDS not FLDS! That was also a very rare case that doesn't happen often. They seem to have overactive imaginations. I highly doubt a cougar is going to go into their backyards...in the middle of SLC.
I like how the minute outsiders who up, they act like they are just normal LDS. I mean, what the fuck. It also wasn't in 1890, but in 1835. That's when the Doctrine and Covenants was created, and considered as another form of our teachings. In 1850 (!!) was when we actually changed church law and banned it. In fact, even in the original church when it was created in the 1600s - polygamy was only allowed because we were ostracized from the church. Because we were doing a trek across the united states, women were being left homeless and shelterless...left to fend for themselves. So people took another wife in order to secure their safety and basic human rights. THAT is the REAL reason for polygamy.
Every church says they are the one true church. If you are a break off of another church, it's highly unlikely that you're actually the "true" church especially when a key function like Polygamy acceptance is changed. I'm sorry, the fact you marry 12 yr old girls means that your church isn't a church, but actually full of nasty old men. I like how he completely lied to the press' face. You married a 12 yr old girl, and no you didn't root out shit. He's part of the main reason there are issues there.
I can't believe that Nikki actually KNOWS she has a spending problem, and continue to lie about! If she honestly had an issue, she wouldn't see a problem with telling the truth. But, since she knows there is a problem, she's purposely trying to cover it up. And no, it's NOT for Wayne. It's for HER. She wants it to be all about HER. He has complete right to get angry at her. I find highly disrespectful that her father was even asked to pay for it, let alone IS going to pay for it. That's wrong. Her husband or her should pay for it, not the daddy who is no longer involved in their lives. She was definitely changing the subject, and honestly he has everytime to get mad at her dad's little scheme to make even more money. It doesn't effect her position in the family, everyone still sees her as a bitch. Cry more. You're just upset you can't spend $50,000 on a 5 yr old's bday. Pity party!
She also totally ignored Bill's rant about not spending money, and not inviting her father. Apparently she's going to keep making this about her, and ignore everything that is said to her. Didn't she realize with the home security system, that there is obviously something NOT right. I have no idea why Nikki keeps being a bitch and ruining her own life. She obviously didn't come from a ton of money, so why does she think she can spend it freely. Let alone, after his reaction, did she really think it was a good idea to invite her dad? Come on now. Think! I think because Bill said she couldn't spend that much money on a birthday party, she decided to defy what he said in some other way. Childish!
I hope that Margie realizes driving is a priveledge, and since she's not paying for the car - she should be careful. Especially with someone else's kid in the car! She's very irresponsible, and acts like a child. How dare she ask Barb's daughter to babysit her kids while she goes on a joyride. If she was using that car properly, she would take the kids WITH her.
I honestly thought the new neighbor was fake. I think the only real reason he introduced himself was because of the commercial, and he wants props in saying he knows/lives near the Hendrickson guy. It's like our neighbors, been there for months and the only time they introduce themselves is when they noticed we were babysitting their fucked up kids. After that, didn't hear from them again - besides the anonymous notes. I like Barb's dealing with the situation, "we keep to ourselves". LOL Good going! (Also, after the party when they turned off their porch light and went inside, I was like do you have nothing better to do then to stare at people all day? Why don't you mind your business...however, these people are breaking the law and shit sooo...)
I'm not sure what world Bill lives on, but him telling Don that the prophet will just "give up" is ludicrous. The prophet only cares about money, and with that many kids, of course his money issues will overlap. I don't think the prophet cares who he hurts in order to get his money, I wouldda just called the cops and told them "hey, I'm being extorted, here's all the information". I know they risk "exposure", but if they were honestly doing something LEGAL - they'd have help.
I thought it was funny when Margie invaded his mom's personal space, and the mom was all like...okay and who are you? I don't blame her for saying Margie was young either. Honestly, I'm surprised Barb wasn't highly insulted that he kept picking up younger wives. I'm sure it's not their "minds" that attracted him to them first. I found it tacky, that unlike his friend "Don", he seemed to pick younger girls...not girls his own wife's age. That's not right. He inadvertently made Barb and Nikki feel unattracted, Barb twice so.
Nikki is the biggest fucking bitch ever. She's now lying to her husband, just to "get her way". I'm sorry honey, but this time you royally fucked up. I hope that she gets it in the end. Apparently, dumbass bitch doesn't realize how serious the situation is. Newsflash: If he got a SECUTIY SYSTEM in the house, and people at work are being attacked, it's a dire situatin. You can't just be "one family" after that. She's even more of an idiot to try and say "fix it then", "be a peacemaker". What the fuck is that chick smoking? I know it's her father, but she probably has no idea who her father even is. He seems like an evil, old man that only cares about his money.
Actually, if he told her the reason she couldn't spend all that money or have her little party in the first place was because of her father, I'm sure she'd be a little more cooperative. I'm surprised that Roman/Prophet said that it was okay to put their differences aside for the sake of pressence. I'm sure he didn't want to look bad in front of the entire list of guests. However, did the old guy just take credit for Barb's health?
I felt bad for Wayne, the kid. This is supposed to be a party for him, and it turns out it's all about Nikki. Again. What kind of mother does that! Little guy looked miserable. Funny that even her own mother is saying to beat a bitch if she doesn't listen. He didn't even have fun on that poney, and she seemed to have wasted time getting him to ride it. Must of been another attention thing. I hope they don't have to keep it, where would they even put it!
I'm worried that Bill's brother might have the hots for Barb. He seemed a little TOO close to her, and he was really flattering her a lot. Shouldn't he be giving thar ring to his own child, once it comes? He also seems a lot closer to Bill's eldest boy then Bill actually does.
It seems like things weren't put on hold, or the little Rhonda has her own agenda. I know she misses her friend, but trying to convince her to do stuff with the "old sect" is just asking for trouble. I liked the guilt trip she gave her. LOL I can't believe the little tramp is even PROUD of breaking the law. She's PROUD of her situation, and loves to flaunt it. I think old Roman only likes her best because she's barely even an adult. I'm sure the other wives don't necessarily hate her because she's young, but because of her shitty attitude. And way to dodge the love question by talking about obedience. LOL (I KNEW that bitch would DO something! She just stole that chick's ipod! Even if she didn't steal it, that girl had to work her butt off to afford it - and I'm sure she would just manipulate her to give it over)
I STILL don't believe that he'd actually take a what, 200 yr old? guitar that was in a glass case, to play for a kid's birthday party. It doesn't look that old, and honestly if it was worth that much (and on a mural for fuck's sake), then either it's fake or he's fucking retarded. Nikki also totally interrupted guitar time, because apparently she can't last more then 2minutes without having the attention focused on her.
It's terrible that she knows the name brand names. If everything isn't about materilistic things, then why does she fucking know all of this? It's kid's shoes and she knows all of them just by sight? What is she even teaching this kid? Why does she care about the brand so much? Apparently, she ordered all of it for her kid just because. And, apparently going to a local store for all of it was too hard for her, because then it wouldn't be named brand. Even her own mother has this look on her face of "wtf". It's sad that she even got him a gift card to some place he's never even heard of! She's turning things into all about her posessions...what kind of mother is that!
Though mommy is a little off the mark about coercing Margie into marriage. While I think he did prey on her (she is technically 20 yrs younger then him?), because she lived in a very small town and just wanted out. I don't think he actually forced her into anything. Yes, he is a sleeze for marrying so young, but she was over 20 when they got married, right?
Everyone looks super pleased to be there! LOL Only Nikki is happy about the party. Everyone else either looks miserable, bored, or wanting to run. Apparently, Nikki wanted even MORE attention so she started yet another song! Yeah, cause you can tell they totally wanted to do that! Apparently she didn't get the hint when no one started singing. So, naturally, as an attention whore, we need to pick up the kid and keep pointing (it's another manipulation tactic).
Wow she is such a bitch! I wouldda asked too since she was basically stabbing it with a spoon. She's such a bitch! Her reaction is the exact reason why I have no idea why he even bothered to ruin his and Barb's marraige by marrying her ass. Then to have a little bitch fit like that in front of their guests is like what the fuck. Grow up! Apparently, since she can't have his attention (wow, talk about clingy), she has now decided to make everyone else miserable at the party. It seems like she is a little TOO close to her dad. Apparently, all she cares about is Daddy and not really Bill. All it took was 2minutes of attention from the prophet to get her back to giggling.
I almost felt bad for Roman. He actually looked and spoke like he misses spending time with his daughter. However, I can't tell if he hates Bill just because of the money thing or because of his daughter. I think if he had to choose between his daughter and money, he might go with money.
Why are they apologizing for her own party going like shit? Why is she even moping around about it? NIKKI caused that shit herself!! Maybe if she wasn't such a psychotic, clingy bitch - and actually about her kid - it would have gone better! And no, you don't fit in because you're a crazy bitch!
Wednesday, August 25, 2010
Big Love: Season 1, Episode 2
I'm on Episode 2. It seems like every episode starts with him banging a chick. This time it was Margie, and yeah she had it coming to her when the bitch Nikki screwed him on her bed. Serves you right. You were loud as fuck, and honestly, how does it fucking feel being shoved in your face? LOL I think that would sound about right, if I actually gave a shit.
I've honestly never seen any mother ignore their kids while they cry. I've seen some in stores, and I stop and think of how they shouldn't even have kids. When she admitted to taking a nap while her kids were screaming like that, I was like woah. If this was a real person, please take those kids away!
I am now convinced that the prophet is poisoning him. I didn't think it was the mother because she seemed really aloof and blunt (at the same time) about it. She just seemed to obvious of a choice to blame.
That poor baby, he has to "manage his wives" and deal with "responsibility". Maybe he shouldda thought of that when he was poking another chick while his wife was getting over having cancer. You don't even manage your wives, they manage YOU majority of the time. In fact, most of the drama so far is based on what HE does.
See, I knew it! Most polygamist families wind up all having sex TOGETHER. That's why I was partially confused by this! Now, the other two women are playing footsies. I'm honestly not even shocked, because I KNEW that's what they do.
Is it sad when someone is tired of the sex scenes? There have been 3 already and I'm not even 40minutes in. I mean, 1 was enough...3 per chick or whatever would make sense. But, I'm even farther into it now and what the fuck. Stop having sex! Honestly, these people wouldn't keep having awkward moments if they just didn't go upstairs into a house that technically isn't theirs! Serves Nikki right though, at least it wasn't in Nikki's house and 10minutes over the time is really not that bad. Semantics. I like how Nikki called Barb a hypocrite, that's not the reason Barb had an issue with it...it was because her kids could hear it. Nikki purposely BROUGHT her kids upstairs to hear it. Sure, she didn't know they were doing it...but it's not like they were completely outside hearing it. Completely different, and honestly Nikki deserves any shit that comes her way. She's a bitch.
Apparently, this show has no idea that almost all teenagers - that attend any type of public school (which these characters do) - actually learn a lot about sex and what transgendered is! It's mainly common sense, and for her to play "stupid" about it is very laughable. When I went to high school, even though I was LDS, everyone joked about that type of stuff ALL the damn time. Added on there are health classes that TEACH you this, or for that matter even in biology! How about Human Anatomy and Physiology was also a fun class.
For that matter, since when is it TOO MORMON to do anything good for the general public? That makes no sense, and is completely insulting to the LDS members who DO do a TON of public work. I am a military spouse, LDS, and I do a LOT of things for our community. Like not killing them everytime they piss me off. :) However, our church is ranked #1 for helping out the homeless, orphaned children, the poor, the disabled...the list goes on. That is what those tithes are for! Yes, a portion goes to new temples (they are beautiful though), but a good chunk of it goes right back into our community and NOT into our pockets - unlike the Catholic church.
I guess I am also trying to figure out why this adult male, with 3 wives to support, is still butthurt about something his dad did like 30 years ago. My parents were terrible to me too, but you don't see me dwelling on that shit. Fuck, I even visited my mom when she had that brain issue before. He's like 20 yrs older then me, and he can't just get the fuck over it. What part of: that was a long time ago, don't you get? You have your own life and your own family to look after - focus on that shit first! Both of them were really childish during that entire thing, especially the husband. (Apparently husband's name is Bill...I really wasn't paying attention. Lawlz)
So loving of the father to pretty much ditch him to his own fate. However, can't say that I blame him since Bill was a complete douche at the hospital and probably the entire car ride home. And since when do the FLDS members act like complete thugs? This seems a little overzealous story writing to me. I also find it ironic that he prays to God to help him out of a situation that HE created. This is all about money, that he doesn't want to pay. Poor baby. Don't pay it and call the cops on him for child molestation.
Wow...he wooed her with completely false religion. So, basically, if you didn't have a 3rd wife you wouldn't get the highest form of eternal salvation. That's definitely FLDS logic right there. I don't think God wanted you to have multiple wives in order to be some kind of elite angel. Sorry, will never believe that shit. The fact that she BOUGHT that crap, made me laugh instead of being "touched" by the moment.
Margie is right. She has two small children, and no way to get around in the outside world. He can't keep her trapped up in the house forever. She needs a car to provide for the home and her family. He is dense to think that the other wives can have a car, and she can't. She truly does, especially since the other wives probably can't lend her theirs all the time.
Honestly, I expected the dad to blame Bill for the "attempted murder" thing too. After what happened between them, I fully expected revenge to be had. That was his dad's version of revenge for the hospital shit. I can't say that I blame him.
I've honestly never seen any mother ignore their kids while they cry. I've seen some in stores, and I stop and think of how they shouldn't even have kids. When she admitted to taking a nap while her kids were screaming like that, I was like woah. If this was a real person, please take those kids away!
I am now convinced that the prophet is poisoning him. I didn't think it was the mother because she seemed really aloof and blunt (at the same time) about it. She just seemed to obvious of a choice to blame.
That poor baby, he has to "manage his wives" and deal with "responsibility". Maybe he shouldda thought of that when he was poking another chick while his wife was getting over having cancer. You don't even manage your wives, they manage YOU majority of the time. In fact, most of the drama so far is based on what HE does.
See, I knew it! Most polygamist families wind up all having sex TOGETHER. That's why I was partially confused by this! Now, the other two women are playing footsies. I'm honestly not even shocked, because I KNEW that's what they do.
Is it sad when someone is tired of the sex scenes? There have been 3 already and I'm not even 40minutes in. I mean, 1 was enough...3 per chick or whatever would make sense. But, I'm even farther into it now and what the fuck. Stop having sex! Honestly, these people wouldn't keep having awkward moments if they just didn't go upstairs into a house that technically isn't theirs! Serves Nikki right though, at least it wasn't in Nikki's house and 10minutes over the time is really not that bad. Semantics. I like how Nikki called Barb a hypocrite, that's not the reason Barb had an issue with it...it was because her kids could hear it. Nikki purposely BROUGHT her kids upstairs to hear it. Sure, she didn't know they were doing it...but it's not like they were completely outside hearing it. Completely different, and honestly Nikki deserves any shit that comes her way. She's a bitch.
Apparently, this show has no idea that almost all teenagers - that attend any type of public school (which these characters do) - actually learn a lot about sex and what transgendered is! It's mainly common sense, and for her to play "stupid" about it is very laughable. When I went to high school, even though I was LDS, everyone joked about that type of stuff ALL the damn time. Added on there are health classes that TEACH you this, or for that matter even in biology! How about Human Anatomy and Physiology was also a fun class.
For that matter, since when is it TOO MORMON to do anything good for the general public? That makes no sense, and is completely insulting to the LDS members who DO do a TON of public work. I am a military spouse, LDS, and I do a LOT of things for our community. Like not killing them everytime they piss me off. :) However, our church is ranked #1 for helping out the homeless, orphaned children, the poor, the disabled...the list goes on. That is what those tithes are for! Yes, a portion goes to new temples (they are beautiful though), but a good chunk of it goes right back into our community and NOT into our pockets - unlike the Catholic church.
I guess I am also trying to figure out why this adult male, with 3 wives to support, is still butthurt about something his dad did like 30 years ago. My parents were terrible to me too, but you don't see me dwelling on that shit. Fuck, I even visited my mom when she had that brain issue before. He's like 20 yrs older then me, and he can't just get the fuck over it. What part of: that was a long time ago, don't you get? You have your own life and your own family to look after - focus on that shit first! Both of them were really childish during that entire thing, especially the husband. (Apparently husband's name is Bill...I really wasn't paying attention. Lawlz)
So loving of the father to pretty much ditch him to his own fate. However, can't say that I blame him since Bill was a complete douche at the hospital and probably the entire car ride home. And since when do the FLDS members act like complete thugs? This seems a little overzealous story writing to me. I also find it ironic that he prays to God to help him out of a situation that HE created. This is all about money, that he doesn't want to pay. Poor baby. Don't pay it and call the cops on him for child molestation.
Wow...he wooed her with completely false religion. So, basically, if you didn't have a 3rd wife you wouldn't get the highest form of eternal salvation. That's definitely FLDS logic right there. I don't think God wanted you to have multiple wives in order to be some kind of elite angel. Sorry, will never believe that shit. The fact that she BOUGHT that crap, made me laugh instead of being "touched" by the moment.
Margie is right. She has two small children, and no way to get around in the outside world. He can't keep her trapped up in the house forever. She needs a car to provide for the home and her family. He is dense to think that the other wives can have a car, and she can't. She truly does, especially since the other wives probably can't lend her theirs all the time.
Honestly, I expected the dad to blame Bill for the "attempted murder" thing too. After what happened between them, I fully expected revenge to be had. That was his dad's version of revenge for the hospital shit. I can't say that I blame him.
Big Love: Season 1, Episode 1
After much searching, I finally realized I can watch them online (we have HBO through Comcast). Took a little bit of remembering passwords and attempting to find my parental controls (which were off, but my internet was saying it was on). So, now I'm finally watching this shitty series - ready to pick it apart.
I even talked to a few friends of mine about what I was planning to do and honestly, they all believed Big Love and Follow the Prophet were 100% true about LDS members (didn't even know there was a difference between FLDS and LDS). I hate you Tom Hanks, and I hate the director/producer/screen writer of Follow the Prophet. I hate them all. They have no idea what kind of backswing this has caused for the truly religious LDS community, that does NOT abuse little kids and have 40 wives.
Opening scene where he is in his tighty whities, really made me almost want to puke. Even my devote husband wears boxers. That was just totally unneeded. No, garments do NOT look like that. Nor, did I REALLY need to see them having sex. Yes, I know, HBO, but really?? I don't need to watch some old guy struggling to get his penis into some chick.
I'm about halfway through the episode now, and honestly he seems to be the type of person who has REALLY low self esteem. He can't get it up with his new wife, and he seems really self-conscience. That doesn't give him a reasont to mentally and emotionally fuck up his world though. For the record: That has to have some effect on those kids!
The blonde wife seemed to shop a lot. I have never once really ordered anything out of a catalogue...let alone had that many credit cards! I have one credit card for emergencies only. And the fact her kid knows who UPS is, is really strange. She gave off this air of being obsessed with "fashion". Though cowboy boots really aren't that fashionable.
In a prayer, you're not really supposed to ask for things that are selfish. I know people do it, however asking for a successful store opening is kind of like...uh...what?? He also started and ended the prayer completely differently then LDS members would. I'm not sure why he even phrased the end like that when he prays to his God every day at LEAST 3 times a day? I think that was just for the storyline/camera though.
I also don't know about anyone else, but this was a complete confused mind-fuck for me. Even with my exstensive knowledge about the LDS and FLDS religions, I was left hoping for some sort of explanation in episode 1. But, 15minutes in and I'm absolutely in a confused mind-fuck situation of not knowing what the fuck is going on. I obviously picked up on a few things, but I'm still generally confused.
I also guess I don't understand why she "wanted to do it this way". Do they realize there are multiple ways to have sex? So far, I've noticed the one position from him with that blonde chick in the beginning - boring. Then from behind? OHHHH! Daring! Her garments are not the typical LDS garments either.
Please, for the love of God! I do NOT NEED to see them having sex! That has NOTHING to do with their situation. I don't need to see the differences in how they have sex, or how attracted they are to this old, ugly man. Sure, it matters that he can't get it up for one of them. But, you can just TELL me that, don't fucking SHOW me it. Nor did I really need to see him supposedly getting head. Gross!
I'm sure there are many reasons for erectile disfuction and I'm sure he's in the proper age range (it probably effects even 20 yr old studs too). However, why am I having to see this? This guy has 3 chicks, and 3 different lives with each? He's sitting happy. Why am I being shown something so pointless to this show?! Each couple is different, and so is their issues - so WHY do I need to watch him having sex? I'm also POSITIVE, he didn't have this MANY problems before! He's got like 8 kids, and it costs $2,000 (no healthcare covers seminal injection) per 3 injections. That's too much money.
I also don't think a solution for his impotency will be found online, but rather in his head. He has a lot of issues going on right, namely being he has 3 wives. That's alot of stress. Get rid of the latest 2 and go about like a normal person.
Yeah, it looks like the blonde is the 2nd wife...and she is definitely addicted to shopping. I'm sure that is her version of coping with having to SHARE a husband. She also seems to be really super attached to him, creepy-like. She buys clothes for her kids, and doesn't even take off all the stickers and shit before she puts them in it? I buy clothes for my kids every 6 months, at the thrift store usually. But, SHE has some serious spending issues. They also seem like they are having money issues, and she can't understand that. Way to spend them out of houses and homes.
She runs outta milk and goes over to Barb's house for skim milk...and steals her peanut butter while she's there. Does she even spend money on FOOD? Even her credit cards are maxed out. What the hell is she thinking? What's worse is she just keeps trying to spend even more money. I've never had a card maxxed out, and IF that happened, I'd make sure it was being paid and that we weren't in a super financial crisis. (Didn't she also just order some boots or something the day before??) Who the FUCK buys curtains for $3,100?! I don't even HAVE curtains! And then, after completely destroying their finances even more - she cries?! Get the fuck over yourself! Stop ruining your own life! Get a husband, be his ONLY spouse, and don't spend so much fucking money. For that matter, TAKE CARE OF YOUR KIDS! Oh, her name is Nikki.
I can't even feel pity for these chicks. They put themselves in this situation, and honestly, it doesn't even look like the guy even LIKES her. She's a selfish bitch, who wants to shop instead of buy food for her kids. I HATE people like that.
The brown haired chick (3rd wife), seems to have self-esteem issues too. She is obsessed with her "baby" weight. Come on, you will never be the same size you were before your kids. It just doesn't happen. You can get close, but no reason to obsess over it.
The redhead (Barb) chick (1st wife) seems to have the strongest connection with him. I'm not sure why they called her the dragonlady, other then that they are jealous of the time she had with him BEFORE they stepped into the picture. I'm hoping we see more of her, as she seems the most normal.
Okay, now that he actually has a night with her. I'm surprised. He wore pjs, and doesn't seem attracted to her at all. No wonder he wanted another wife or two. But, that's NO excuse! Way to treat her like garbage! She puts up with the MOST!
When they were going over their schedule, I had the distinct impression that Nikki is a psychotic, selfish bitch. Sure your kid turns 5, that's important, however...she seems like she's being really selfish about the whole thing. She made a big stink over having him to herself, for her KID'S birthday. Nikki is also VERY disrespectful over the money. They get equal pay, and Nikki also has her own checking account, AND she gets money left on the dresser table. That seems like she is getting way more special perks then the others.
I'm surprised that the curse words were changed to things like "dumbhead", when you obviously know what they meant. Why isn't dumbhead a curse word, like dumbass is? Oh that's right, because the magical God of curse words didn't say it was one.
As per him asking her for HER money, and telling her what to do. She had every right to be pissed off. Yeah, let's help out Nikki who can't even control her spending. Fuck that. Honestly, I think he really did ask because Nikki was begging for more money. Don't pay that bitch shit! She also had a point with the pjs, the one time he wore pjs was for Barb's night. How fucked up is that!
I thought it was funny how Barb, the 1st wife, took the front seat from Nikki, the 2nd wife. I doubt that Nikki even realizes that she's not #1, and never will be #1. Poor baby. Nikki is also an attention whore. She doesn't like it when the guy stops paying nonstop attention to her.
Apparently, this late into the movie, we are told that they live in Salt Lake City. I'm sure it was a great idea to put them in SLC, just so the viewers get confused about the LDS and FLDS even more!
What the fuck was that chick even quoting? What's wrong with LDS missionaries? They are more normal then this fucked up family we're following. I don't even eat white bread, and I absolutely HATE jello. So, once again, that is grouping and a bigot comment. I also was not a virgin when I got married. Though, my husband was, and honestly I loved him for it.
#3 is a terrible mother. Regardless of if they are all her kids or not. I have two, and it literally takes no effort to keep them entertained while I change a diaper. I don't like Nikki's attitude about "paying respects" to her father. His dad is like almost dead, and she's demanding that NOW? I think that visiting shit can wait.
The 80 yr old married to the 12 yr old was disgusting! Oh, I'm sure it happens in the FLDS community...but it does NOT happen in the LDS community (where Tom Hanks once was a member, supposedly). He must be the "prophet". I also, REALLY doubt, that 4,000 FLDS members live in that area (I really see this as 4,000 pedophile and their followers...plus the children forced into it). I don't even think there that many in the WORLD in their church. Especially since they keep getting closed down. The old man is really creepy.
After the long conversation between the two girls, you can obviously tell that one is LDS and the other is FLDS. It's very clear. This is yet another reason why I don't understand why people THINK (and seem so sure of it!) that it's MAINLY about the LDS. Hello! Polygamy = FLDS! Dumbasses! I don't know why she didn't just come out and say she's not LDS. If you let her think you're "inactive" that means you're a member of the church. You're NOT!
I guess the reason why the hubby decided to get more wives is because he wanted more kids. It seems like his wife had cancer, and he decided to get penis happy elsewhere. That doesn't give him the excuse to go screw other chicks. If anything, that makes him a TERRIBLE husband and that Rhonda chick is a selfish brat.
Oh god, Nikki's father is the prophet. No wonder she is totally fucked up. I like how Nikki claims the entire thing is "superficial". The only person I see worrying about superficial shit, is omg...Nikki! Her mother actually made sense. LOL Nikki picked that shit life, so stop fucking complaining about it now. If you don't like it, LEAVE!
I don't think the husband has a right to tell Barb to "leave them be". That little snot of a "wife" attacked her and talked shit about her, right in front of her face! That was the rudest shit I ever saw. I mean, I'd definitely talk shit about that little bitch too. Why does everything have to be with money about him? Why does he even keep going back to it? Is that all she is to him? Previous wife, whom he tolerates just so he can see his kids and steal money from?
I'm curious to know how they got sealed as a family in a temple, that they can't even get into. I agree that he needs to remember where the fuck he comes from, cause before his wife had cancer...he probably was a great husband, then he turned selfish and into a prick.
Personally, my favorite part was the ending credits, which no one reads. It didn't say that THIS show was about the FLDS church, not the LDS church. Aside from that, we starteded denouncing polygamy publicly in 1835 with the Doctrine and Covenants. It was "officially" written down as a ban in 1852 though. So, in reality, once again Tom Hanks has his facts incorrect. Good going. Onto the next episode.
I even talked to a few friends of mine about what I was planning to do and honestly, they all believed Big Love and Follow the Prophet were 100% true about LDS members (didn't even know there was a difference between FLDS and LDS). I hate you Tom Hanks, and I hate the director/producer/screen writer of Follow the Prophet. I hate them all. They have no idea what kind of backswing this has caused for the truly religious LDS community, that does NOT abuse little kids and have 40 wives.
Opening scene where he is in his tighty whities, really made me almost want to puke. Even my devote husband wears boxers. That was just totally unneeded. No, garments do NOT look like that. Nor, did I REALLY need to see them having sex. Yes, I know, HBO, but really?? I don't need to watch some old guy struggling to get his penis into some chick.
I'm about halfway through the episode now, and honestly he seems to be the type of person who has REALLY low self esteem. He can't get it up with his new wife, and he seems really self-conscience. That doesn't give him a reasont to mentally and emotionally fuck up his world though. For the record: That has to have some effect on those kids!
The blonde wife seemed to shop a lot. I have never once really ordered anything out of a catalogue...let alone had that many credit cards! I have one credit card for emergencies only. And the fact her kid knows who UPS is, is really strange. She gave off this air of being obsessed with "fashion". Though cowboy boots really aren't that fashionable.
In a prayer, you're not really supposed to ask for things that are selfish. I know people do it, however asking for a successful store opening is kind of like...uh...what?? He also started and ended the prayer completely differently then LDS members would. I'm not sure why he even phrased the end like that when he prays to his God every day at LEAST 3 times a day? I think that was just for the storyline/camera though.
I also don't know about anyone else, but this was a complete confused mind-fuck for me. Even with my exstensive knowledge about the LDS and FLDS religions, I was left hoping for some sort of explanation in episode 1. But, 15minutes in and I'm absolutely in a confused mind-fuck situation of not knowing what the fuck is going on. I obviously picked up on a few things, but I'm still generally confused.
I also guess I don't understand why she "wanted to do it this way". Do they realize there are multiple ways to have sex? So far, I've noticed the one position from him with that blonde chick in the beginning - boring. Then from behind? OHHHH! Daring! Her garments are not the typical LDS garments either.
Please, for the love of God! I do NOT NEED to see them having sex! That has NOTHING to do with their situation. I don't need to see the differences in how they have sex, or how attracted they are to this old, ugly man. Sure, it matters that he can't get it up for one of them. But, you can just TELL me that, don't fucking SHOW me it. Nor did I really need to see him supposedly getting head. Gross!
I'm sure there are many reasons for erectile disfuction and I'm sure he's in the proper age range (it probably effects even 20 yr old studs too). However, why am I having to see this? This guy has 3 chicks, and 3 different lives with each? He's sitting happy. Why am I being shown something so pointless to this show?! Each couple is different, and so is their issues - so WHY do I need to watch him having sex? I'm also POSITIVE, he didn't have this MANY problems before! He's got like 8 kids, and it costs $2,000 (no healthcare covers seminal injection) per 3 injections. That's too much money.
I also don't think a solution for his impotency will be found online, but rather in his head. He has a lot of issues going on right, namely being he has 3 wives. That's alot of stress. Get rid of the latest 2 and go about like a normal person.
Yeah, it looks like the blonde is the 2nd wife...and she is definitely addicted to shopping. I'm sure that is her version of coping with having to SHARE a husband. She also seems to be really super attached to him, creepy-like. She buys clothes for her kids, and doesn't even take off all the stickers and shit before she puts them in it? I buy clothes for my kids every 6 months, at the thrift store usually. But, SHE has some serious spending issues. They also seem like they are having money issues, and she can't understand that. Way to spend them out of houses and homes.
She runs outta milk and goes over to Barb's house for skim milk...and steals her peanut butter while she's there. Does she even spend money on FOOD? Even her credit cards are maxed out. What the hell is she thinking? What's worse is she just keeps trying to spend even more money. I've never had a card maxxed out, and IF that happened, I'd make sure it was being paid and that we weren't in a super financial crisis. (Didn't she also just order some boots or something the day before??) Who the FUCK buys curtains for $3,100?! I don't even HAVE curtains! And then, after completely destroying their finances even more - she cries?! Get the fuck over yourself! Stop ruining your own life! Get a husband, be his ONLY spouse, and don't spend so much fucking money. For that matter, TAKE CARE OF YOUR KIDS! Oh, her name is Nikki.
I can't even feel pity for these chicks. They put themselves in this situation, and honestly, it doesn't even look like the guy even LIKES her. She's a selfish bitch, who wants to shop instead of buy food for her kids. I HATE people like that.
The brown haired chick (3rd wife), seems to have self-esteem issues too. She is obsessed with her "baby" weight. Come on, you will never be the same size you were before your kids. It just doesn't happen. You can get close, but no reason to obsess over it.
The redhead (Barb) chick (1st wife) seems to have the strongest connection with him. I'm not sure why they called her the dragonlady, other then that they are jealous of the time she had with him BEFORE they stepped into the picture. I'm hoping we see more of her, as she seems the most normal.
Okay, now that he actually has a night with her. I'm surprised. He wore pjs, and doesn't seem attracted to her at all. No wonder he wanted another wife or two. But, that's NO excuse! Way to treat her like garbage! She puts up with the MOST!
When they were going over their schedule, I had the distinct impression that Nikki is a psychotic, selfish bitch. Sure your kid turns 5, that's important, however...she seems like she's being really selfish about the whole thing. She made a big stink over having him to herself, for her KID'S birthday. Nikki is also VERY disrespectful over the money. They get equal pay, and Nikki also has her own checking account, AND she gets money left on the dresser table. That seems like she is getting way more special perks then the others.
I'm surprised that the curse words were changed to things like "dumbhead", when you obviously know what they meant. Why isn't dumbhead a curse word, like dumbass is? Oh that's right, because the magical God of curse words didn't say it was one.
As per him asking her for HER money, and telling her what to do. She had every right to be pissed off. Yeah, let's help out Nikki who can't even control her spending. Fuck that. Honestly, I think he really did ask because Nikki was begging for more money. Don't pay that bitch shit! She also had a point with the pjs, the one time he wore pjs was for Barb's night. How fucked up is that!
I thought it was funny how Barb, the 1st wife, took the front seat from Nikki, the 2nd wife. I doubt that Nikki even realizes that she's not #1, and never will be #1. Poor baby. Nikki is also an attention whore. She doesn't like it when the guy stops paying nonstop attention to her.
Apparently, this late into the movie, we are told that they live in Salt Lake City. I'm sure it was a great idea to put them in SLC, just so the viewers get confused about the LDS and FLDS even more!
What the fuck was that chick even quoting? What's wrong with LDS missionaries? They are more normal then this fucked up family we're following. I don't even eat white bread, and I absolutely HATE jello. So, once again, that is grouping and a bigot comment. I also was not a virgin when I got married. Though, my husband was, and honestly I loved him for it.
#3 is a terrible mother. Regardless of if they are all her kids or not. I have two, and it literally takes no effort to keep them entertained while I change a diaper. I don't like Nikki's attitude about "paying respects" to her father. His dad is like almost dead, and she's demanding that NOW? I think that visiting shit can wait.
The 80 yr old married to the 12 yr old was disgusting! Oh, I'm sure it happens in the FLDS community...but it does NOT happen in the LDS community (where Tom Hanks once was a member, supposedly). He must be the "prophet". I also, REALLY doubt, that 4,000 FLDS members live in that area (I really see this as 4,000 pedophile and their followers...plus the children forced into it). I don't even think there that many in the WORLD in their church. Especially since they keep getting closed down. The old man is really creepy.
After the long conversation between the two girls, you can obviously tell that one is LDS and the other is FLDS. It's very clear. This is yet another reason why I don't understand why people THINK (and seem so sure of it!) that it's MAINLY about the LDS. Hello! Polygamy = FLDS! Dumbasses! I don't know why she didn't just come out and say she's not LDS. If you let her think you're "inactive" that means you're a member of the church. You're NOT!
I guess the reason why the hubby decided to get more wives is because he wanted more kids. It seems like his wife had cancer, and he decided to get penis happy elsewhere. That doesn't give him the excuse to go screw other chicks. If anything, that makes him a TERRIBLE husband and that Rhonda chick is a selfish brat.
Oh god, Nikki's father is the prophet. No wonder she is totally fucked up. I like how Nikki claims the entire thing is "superficial". The only person I see worrying about superficial shit, is omg...Nikki! Her mother actually made sense. LOL Nikki picked that shit life, so stop fucking complaining about it now. If you don't like it, LEAVE!
I don't think the husband has a right to tell Barb to "leave them be". That little snot of a "wife" attacked her and talked shit about her, right in front of her face! That was the rudest shit I ever saw. I mean, I'd definitely talk shit about that little bitch too. Why does everything have to be with money about him? Why does he even keep going back to it? Is that all she is to him? Previous wife, whom he tolerates just so he can see his kids and steal money from?
I'm curious to know how they got sealed as a family in a temple, that they can't even get into. I agree that he needs to remember where the fuck he comes from, cause before his wife had cancer...he probably was a great husband, then he turned selfish and into a prick.
Personally, my favorite part was the ending credits, which no one reads. It didn't say that THIS show was about the FLDS church, not the LDS church. Aside from that, we starteded denouncing polygamy publicly in 1835 with the Doctrine and Covenants. It was "officially" written down as a ban in 1852 though. So, in reality, once again Tom Hanks has his facts incorrect. Good going. Onto the next episode.
Monday, August 23, 2010
Movie Review: Follow The Prophet Part 2
I'm now going to go into detail about the actual movie, please ignore all typos I had to keep alt tabbing so my kid didn't see it. I am 10minutes in and am already seeing, yet again, another scene that makes absolutely no sense. The FLDS members that this movie was created about, live in religious sects. Home schooled, in a 5 mile-ish wide area. They all live together in an occult "compound". Their houses do NOT look like normal houses. The movie shows the two girls (Valerie and her sister) living in a modern day home, when a car drives up. Most FLDS members do NOT drive, and that is reserved ONLY for trips into town for special occasions (restocking etc). For the most part, FLDS members stay to themselves - secluded. I should also mention that stricter sections of this religion are very intolerant of modern day appliances (it is part of their belief system). So there wouldn't be a phone, video camera, cars, microwaves, fridges. This is obviously not portrayed correctly and one of the main reasons why occult members have such a major issue getting OUT of the occult.
Side note: I've heard various stories about lamps. I'm not sure if they use them or not, or if only sparingly. It's currently up for debate.
I would also like to note that I don't believe in men only having the Melchizedeke Priesthood. I believe that (/gasp) even women can be prophets. Call it a pro-women theory of mine.
I am not sure why the FLDS member went to the "almost" appointed new prophet for fraud help (Who the fuck gets a $6million loan??? No way in hell!). Even if the judge was an FLDS member, that would definitely be a conflict of interest if they were the same religion (same exact sect), or at the least illegal. However, as this is supposed about the pedophile FLDS, I am almost 100% positive the judge was NOT FLDS - and MIGHT be LDS. Completely different. As well, the church wouldn't look bad because one person broke the law. That is a problem with the individual, not their religion, and we've seen how many murderers "find faith in God". It is just contradictory. Tithing is also NOT mandatory, but more of a personal choice. I do NOT pay tithing because my husband gets paid WAY too little, and we live paycheck to paycheck. The way the scene seemed though, the "soon to be" prophet was almost demanding a tithe for his "help". This would also never happen. 10% on every dollar is normal tithe, NOT 60%, and a church leader would NOT take more then 25%. Nor would they blackmail for their help with it. That isn't true at all. I've never been forced or looked down on because I don't pay tithing. Most help our church offers is free, and usually done by the Boy Scouts (Eagle Project/Merit Badges) or the missionaries for free food/glimpse at a tv.
The kissing on the lips is creepy and so is how all of the women seem to "serve" their husband. I mean all of the wives helping him take off his jacket is just...wtf... I wouldn't do that! But, I guess that is considered normal for the FLDS. But, there seems to be a LOT of affection between the daughter and father. My hubby loves his girls, but he doesn't kiss them on their necks and shit all the time. "I saved the best present of all for last." What the fuck, that is the words of a comfortable pedophile! He was probably preparing her for that her entire life! Ewww. I'm not even going to bother asking the usual questions of: "how does a FATHER get attracted like that for their daughter?!", because (as we all know) they'd be pointless. God also NEVER commanded Joseph to fuck his daughter. I'm sorry, I think that is a fucked up version of the bible that I never read. Pro move with the lamp, I laughed. This was probably the only "real" part of the movie to me.
The mother covered her head during it made me say bullshit. Sure the director will just say that the mom is conditioned to accept it as normal, since it most likely happened to her - let alone screaming like that. But I can't even handle it when my kids get a fucking paper cut and the family was overly loving until that moment. Especially if I knew EXACTLY what the cause was. That's how NORMAL mothers react, not this wimpy pathetic version that the director came up with.
After the initial attempted rape scene, none of the rest really seemed believable. I mean, everyone seems to think so highly of this guy that served in Iraq/Afghanistan (yet his own ex-wife and daughter pretty much know nothing about him or hated him), so much so that the cops just let him do whatever he wants. I was floored. Either it was a small town, or it was all for the movie. Also, what are the chances that she randomly picks HIS vehicle. The ONLY truck that won't get searched, stopped, or impounded (even though he drives multiple times drunk). Too much coincidences, and really hard to believe.
I am finding it hard to believe that the main actress in this movie is really 26 years old (at the time of the movie). Annie Burgstede has the body of a 14 yr old girl. She looks rather anorexic and really sickly. I'm not sure if that's her normal body-type, but damn she looks rough. Plus I never have ANY respect for ANY actress that bares all for any type of film. I didn't like it when Ashley Judd did it in The Affair, and I really don't like it when a brand-new actress does it on her first film. It's a sign of things to come. What will she do next?? Oh that's right, she pretty much did it all in this film (regardless of her moral reasons for wanting to star in such a hate-filmed movie). Really not a fan of the naked, walking around supposedly drunk. What person does that when left alone, and a complete stranger could come back? I wouldn't trust that stranger for a minute, especially after what had just happened to me. And right in front of the sheer curtains, no less. What the fuck was this producer thinking? Oh that's right, sex sells. Newsflash: We didn't need nor want this part of the movie. Tacky.
Her obsession with that camera is pretty fucked up too. What's the point in having the hand-held camera shots all the fucking time? She's not doing a video log, she's just fucking around with it all day. So far that is a good 30minutes of my life wasted while she just toys with the shit. Pointless part of the movie, again. The drunk, "I'm making a movie" didn't even validate it for me either. Just made me even more irritated that the director KEPT that shit in there and expected me to watch it. That was also the lamest fucking excuse for making me watch it. It has/had nothing to do with the storyline until this point, and so far has been wasting my fucking time. How the fuck is she even charging that shit in the car and at the camp? This is fucking stupid! I highly doubt she has a portable charger, especially if she is acting like it's a brand new "toy" (and from such a strict FLDS sect).
Plus, why does no one else think it's odd that she suddenly decided to drop ALL aspects of her previous life in less then 24 hrs? She's been gone maybe 8 hrs, and she's already walking around naked, burning her old clothes, drinking her ass off, and smoking her ass off (yet 2 days before she was still choking on the smoke, takes a LOT longer then that to get used to cigarette smoke). What the fuck, this doesn't even make sense. Sure, I can see it happening gradually OVER TIME. But not THAT quickly, regardless of attempted rape.
I've seen and met rape victims, it takes YEARS to even come somewhat close to removing certain aspects of your life. This is NOT the "normal" behavior of a rape victim. Btw, she doesn't look "terrified" like the guy said. She looks like she's just hiding, but that's fucking it. She has a massive attitude problem for this guy just saving her ass royally. That shit is NOT normal for a rape victim. MAJORITY of rape victims are abso-fucking-lutely TERRIFIED of ANY human contact. They cry, get angry, but never are really disrespectful. Shit, I believe one to be SHY towards a stranger more then I'd believe her shitty attitude.
What is this suddenly new plotline where her father supposedly raped her so many times that she was "almost convinced" it never happened, yet suddenly remembers it once she's away from him and is more then willing to talk about it. I call bullshit, most rape victims do NOT want to discuss it or even remember it. If he really did rape her that many times (she's obviously a runner), she would have left the FIRST time. Not that one night. If you are in a situation like that (father raping daughter for years/months/weeks), you either get accustomed to it or you get out much fucking sooner - and we saw she had PLENTY of time to get out in the beginning. You don't even act so fucking surprised like she did at the beginning of the movie, when he was suppoedly raping her for the first time. They acted like that was the only fucking time, and I guess I wouldda believed it. Now with this whole shit, I can't buy any of that crap. Just doesn't make fucking sense. The storyline and thought process behind it makes me think this entire movie production didn't look one fucking thing up at all.
Sadly enough neither the teenage actress nor the actor playing Marx (such a common name btw) are really good at ACTING. He's stoic a lot of the time, and she's usually using that same bland face for EVERYTHING. Honestly, Red (the park ranger of the run away camp) was the MOST believable. She had some real fucking emotion when she first ran into them.
However, ever the naysayer, I am calling bullshit on the "runaway camp". Majority of people that leave the FLDS live in shit apartments with distant relatives or with others who had gotten out before them. Somehow they always manage to contact them before they get out and then head out to meet them one day. This isn't the normal circumstance for the escapees. Once out of the FLDS sect, it is really EASY to hide in normal society less then 5minutes away. I call bullshit on this too, and feel this was only used as another drama-inducing shock factor.
I'm not sure if the director was purposely trying to think that he was sexist, but that was the feeling I got when the director purposely made the cop look like an idiot with the kidnapping comment. Was that degrading shit really necessary? No, and honestly, it did nothing for the storyline (or my attention span).
So when they are documenting the "life stories" at the camp, the reasons for not telling anyone they were being molested/raped ranged from "They said I would burn like toast" (how does that even make fucking sense??), "I wanted to be a Goddess in the spirit world" (Even as LDS, I have no IDEA where this was derrived from...I've never heard of becoming goddess in the after life in any form of the LDS religion), to "You're lucky, you don't need to clutter your day with anything but follow the prophet" (even from an FLDS perspective, that's REALLY fucking far out there - that is not the REASON they follow their prophet, and I don't buy it for this). And once again, none of them really show any key indicators of being rape victims at all.
I've also NEVER, ABSOLUTELY NEVER, heard nor seen ANY scriptures that absolutely state 100% you need 3 wives in order to become a God. First of all, LDS is one of those religions that does NOT hold ANY idols before their god and does NOT believe in false gods. It's a core function of our religion. For that matter, why so specific and where the fuck are these supposed scriptures? I've read the Bible, N Testament, O Testament, Pearl o Great Price, Book of Mormon, etc and no where has it EVER said that. The ONLY thing that come close to that is the FLDS scripture (they actually have their own set that I've never read) that states you get eternal paradise IF you have 3 wives. Kind of like the 40 virgins in heaven, but NOT become a god. It's considered to give you highest form of salvation, and 3 is the minimum requirement.
The mystery behind the "saw my little brother screaming" is also pretty worthless. They delved so much into what happened to the girls, that they didn't even really broach what happened to the boys. All they did was add onto the "occult" ideals by bringing it up briefly and not even in detail. It didn't explain anything, nor was it even a part of the storyline.
In the movie he goes to a military base named Fort Murray in Utah. There is no Fort Murray in Utah. There is Hill Air Force Base (near Ogden), Dugway Proving Ground (Dugway), and Tooele Army Depot. No Fort Murray. There is also no TOWN named Fort Murray in Utah, at all. This place doesn't exist. By the looks of it, it REALLY looks like Hill Air Force Base. Previously, they said that he was prior Delta Force (Army Branch). Dugway and Tooele are both Army posts, however almost no one gets stationed there unless they are considered recruiters (we're stationed near Hill Air Force Base, and we're active duty military, but only under mitigated circumstances). I am once again, calling bullshit and my bullshit detector is going up in flames.
I would also like to add that when the Army guy was saying it was a local matter, he was mainly doing it to keep the peace. That is what they attempt to do, at all costs, otherwise the locals get up in arms about how we live in a militarized state. However, there HAVE been circumstances (like this) where they HAVE contacted the authorities of the area and assisted in the investigation. I also, honestly have to say that there has NEVER been a military cover-up on something like this just because so-and-so was born there and prejudiced. I'm sorry, but no. My husband is an officer and had a shit fit when he heard the movie say that. This is just another HATEFUL/BIGOT segment.
This entire movie so far has just been one lie after another. Sure, some of this shit really DOES happen but NOT to this extreme. The world isn't full of ONE BIG COVERUP! Bullshit! No. An entire STATE (local, federal, state, military etc) do NOT work that closely together and I have NEVER heard of an FLDS sect covering that wide of a range - let alone INFLUENCE it. Usually they are shunned first, not liked. Most of the FLDS nutcakes live off the grid and have absolutely no jobs (if they do, it's a small job) that won't have this range of effect. They just simply don't have the members, and honestly have a screwed up religion (I'm surprised they get ANY members at all). It may SEEM like it, but once you get out of that initial sect - you're golden.
As per his famous line: "Church first before God, Country, Brother". I call bullshit on that. My husband is a military man and put the military before church, and god before them both. Family comes first always. Who the fuck even wrote this trash? When he's not trashing the FLDS/LDS religion (he considers them the same religion, remember?), he's trashing the military. Yes, I did hear the "blip" about fundamentalists breaking off from the church. That was one line, in the middle of the movie (over an hour and 15minutes into it) and the director didn't think it was prudent to delve into it anymore. Assholes.
The equipment that Marx uses for surveillance is actually considered high tech gear. It costs too much to buy on even a Delta's paycheck and no way would he get permission from somebody to borrow it from base. He actually wouldn't be able to leave base with any of it. They make sure nothing leaves the storage rooms.
As per making millions a year, that is from OUR tithes and our PRIVATELY owned businesses. The church does NOT own our jobs, we do. Also, the FLDS does NOT make millions a year - only the LDS. The FLDS is such a smaller sect that it's almost non-existant, and to group our tithes in with them is fucking stupid. As per all unwed mothers collecting welfare, I call BS on that generalization too. There are niggers out there popping out kids JUST to collect WIC and those food stamps. What the fuck. For that matter, majority of LDS members do NOT take advantage of government programs like that (most of us are comfortable in our own upkeep without having to take out handouts). So, the entire time they are talking about the money - it is REALLY about the LDS church. There is also a population of 3million people in the state of Utah (2010 census) and only 12% of our actual total members in the world live in Utah. So, no, this isn't a state of "fraud". Also, they acted like tithes are done "per day". They are only done once a month, sometimes even more infrequently as 6 months to a year. Even then, it is completely up to the INDIVIDUAL how much they DONATE to the church. Businesses do NOT donate to the church, at least not monetary. Usually they donate services or food for homeless shelters (which we are #1 in giving back to communities).
We believe (like almost all other religions have iconic figureheads) that our prophet DOES speak with God ocassionally. However, just because the prophet tells me to jump off a bridge, doesn't mean that I don't have the free will to ignore that "command". The prophet NEVER COMMANDS us to do anything. He mainly offers support and guidance. Not direct orders or commands though (unless it's thou shalt not kill your annoying neighbor).
I have also never seen a missionary holding a sniper rifle. They don't carry sniper rifles on them. LOL As a missionary, you are definatily not supposed to kill anyone. Hunting is okay for normal civilians and being the military is okay too, but we don't go hunting PEOPLE. LOL I'm not even sure what this discple of hell bullshit the father was spewing on about. LOL I still have yet to find any proof that the prophet is God of this earth etc. No such thing at all. It is asinine to assume so, when our religion is SO clear on it.
It's also not that simple to pull out a bullet, Delta training or not. In fact, a lot of people die each year because they saw it done on TV and attempt to do an extraction themself. I really doubt the validity behind this entire scene.
Also for the record, our prophets only have ONE wife and usually are well past the age of 60 after getting elected into office (by the church board)...and well married for over 30 years. Nor does he have an armed guard like the Pope or the President. LOL He walks around like an everyday person, and I'm sure no one even knows who he is or what his name is.
Final comment: That is not what our garments look like at all. There are multiples, including thongs! /gasp I do not, however wear them, because I get itchy with certain fabrics. However, they do have silk garments - but I just don't see the need to spend that much money on underwear when I can just wear a thong or go commando!
I am disgusted, once again, with the fact that they are lumping together the FLDS and LDS church together. They seem to blur the lines when it comes down to making an interesting movie. As shown by all of my complaints, and corrections, they have missed the factual mark by far. This was purely to create more bigots and hatred towards the government (all types) and the LDS.
The worst part about this was that people took this movie as FACTUAL, about our REAL church and REAL events that transpired. This did NOT happen to the LDS church. It has resemblances to the FLDS church, but NOT OURS. There is also maybe 5 LDS members in any sort of public office, so this widespread pandemic of us taking over the world is insane.
This movie was NOT REAL! PLEASE REALIZE THIS AND LOOK INTO THE FACTS YOURSELF! This man does NOT deserve any awards or rewards for his blatant biogtry and hate-filled movie.
Side note: I've heard various stories about lamps. I'm not sure if they use them or not, or if only sparingly. It's currently up for debate.
I would also like to note that I don't believe in men only having the Melchizedeke Priesthood. I believe that (/gasp) even women can be prophets. Call it a pro-women theory of mine.
I am not sure why the FLDS member went to the "almost" appointed new prophet for fraud help (Who the fuck gets a $6million loan??? No way in hell!). Even if the judge was an FLDS member, that would definitely be a conflict of interest if they were the same religion (same exact sect), or at the least illegal. However, as this is supposed about the pedophile FLDS, I am almost 100% positive the judge was NOT FLDS - and MIGHT be LDS. Completely different. As well, the church wouldn't look bad because one person broke the law. That is a problem with the individual, not their religion, and we've seen how many murderers "find faith in God". It is just contradictory. Tithing is also NOT mandatory, but more of a personal choice. I do NOT pay tithing because my husband gets paid WAY too little, and we live paycheck to paycheck. The way the scene seemed though, the "soon to be" prophet was almost demanding a tithe for his "help". This would also never happen. 10% on every dollar is normal tithe, NOT 60%, and a church leader would NOT take more then 25%. Nor would they blackmail for their help with it. That isn't true at all. I've never been forced or looked down on because I don't pay tithing. Most help our church offers is free, and usually done by the Boy Scouts (Eagle Project/Merit Badges) or the missionaries for free food/glimpse at a tv.
The kissing on the lips is creepy and so is how all of the women seem to "serve" their husband. I mean all of the wives helping him take off his jacket is just...wtf... I wouldn't do that! But, I guess that is considered normal for the FLDS. But, there seems to be a LOT of affection between the daughter and father. My hubby loves his girls, but he doesn't kiss them on their necks and shit all the time. "I saved the best present of all for last." What the fuck, that is the words of a comfortable pedophile! He was probably preparing her for that her entire life! Ewww. I'm not even going to bother asking the usual questions of: "how does a FATHER get attracted like that for their daughter?!", because (as we all know) they'd be pointless. God also NEVER commanded Joseph to fuck his daughter. I'm sorry, I think that is a fucked up version of the bible that I never read. Pro move with the lamp, I laughed. This was probably the only "real" part of the movie to me.
The mother covered her head during it made me say bullshit. Sure the director will just say that the mom is conditioned to accept it as normal, since it most likely happened to her - let alone screaming like that. But I can't even handle it when my kids get a fucking paper cut and the family was overly loving until that moment. Especially if I knew EXACTLY what the cause was. That's how NORMAL mothers react, not this wimpy pathetic version that the director came up with.
After the initial attempted rape scene, none of the rest really seemed believable. I mean, everyone seems to think so highly of this guy that served in Iraq/Afghanistan (yet his own ex-wife and daughter pretty much know nothing about him or hated him), so much so that the cops just let him do whatever he wants. I was floored. Either it was a small town, or it was all for the movie. Also, what are the chances that she randomly picks HIS vehicle. The ONLY truck that won't get searched, stopped, or impounded (even though he drives multiple times drunk). Too much coincidences, and really hard to believe.
I am finding it hard to believe that the main actress in this movie is really 26 years old (at the time of the movie). Annie Burgstede has the body of a 14 yr old girl. She looks rather anorexic and really sickly. I'm not sure if that's her normal body-type, but damn she looks rough. Plus I never have ANY respect for ANY actress that bares all for any type of film. I didn't like it when Ashley Judd did it in The Affair, and I really don't like it when a brand-new actress does it on her first film. It's a sign of things to come. What will she do next?? Oh that's right, she pretty much did it all in this film (regardless of her moral reasons for wanting to star in such a hate-filmed movie). Really not a fan of the naked, walking around supposedly drunk. What person does that when left alone, and a complete stranger could come back? I wouldn't trust that stranger for a minute, especially after what had just happened to me. And right in front of the sheer curtains, no less. What the fuck was this producer thinking? Oh that's right, sex sells. Newsflash: We didn't need nor want this part of the movie. Tacky.
Her obsession with that camera is pretty fucked up too. What's the point in having the hand-held camera shots all the fucking time? She's not doing a video log, she's just fucking around with it all day. So far that is a good 30minutes of my life wasted while she just toys with the shit. Pointless part of the movie, again. The drunk, "I'm making a movie" didn't even validate it for me either. Just made me even more irritated that the director KEPT that shit in there and expected me to watch it. That was also the lamest fucking excuse for making me watch it. It has/had nothing to do with the storyline until this point, and so far has been wasting my fucking time. How the fuck is she even charging that shit in the car and at the camp? This is fucking stupid! I highly doubt she has a portable charger, especially if she is acting like it's a brand new "toy" (and from such a strict FLDS sect).
Plus, why does no one else think it's odd that she suddenly decided to drop ALL aspects of her previous life in less then 24 hrs? She's been gone maybe 8 hrs, and she's already walking around naked, burning her old clothes, drinking her ass off, and smoking her ass off (yet 2 days before she was still choking on the smoke, takes a LOT longer then that to get used to cigarette smoke). What the fuck, this doesn't even make sense. Sure, I can see it happening gradually OVER TIME. But not THAT quickly, regardless of attempted rape.
I've seen and met rape victims, it takes YEARS to even come somewhat close to removing certain aspects of your life. This is NOT the "normal" behavior of a rape victim. Btw, she doesn't look "terrified" like the guy said. She looks like she's just hiding, but that's fucking it. She has a massive attitude problem for this guy just saving her ass royally. That shit is NOT normal for a rape victim. MAJORITY of rape victims are abso-fucking-lutely TERRIFIED of ANY human contact. They cry, get angry, but never are really disrespectful. Shit, I believe one to be SHY towards a stranger more then I'd believe her shitty attitude.
What is this suddenly new plotline where her father supposedly raped her so many times that she was "almost convinced" it never happened, yet suddenly remembers it once she's away from him and is more then willing to talk about it. I call bullshit, most rape victims do NOT want to discuss it or even remember it. If he really did rape her that many times (she's obviously a runner), she would have left the FIRST time. Not that one night. If you are in a situation like that (father raping daughter for years/months/weeks), you either get accustomed to it or you get out much fucking sooner - and we saw she had PLENTY of time to get out in the beginning. You don't even act so fucking surprised like she did at the beginning of the movie, when he was suppoedly raping her for the first time. They acted like that was the only fucking time, and I guess I wouldda believed it. Now with this whole shit, I can't buy any of that crap. Just doesn't make fucking sense. The storyline and thought process behind it makes me think this entire movie production didn't look one fucking thing up at all.
Sadly enough neither the teenage actress nor the actor playing Marx (such a common name btw) are really good at ACTING. He's stoic a lot of the time, and she's usually using that same bland face for EVERYTHING. Honestly, Red (the park ranger of the run away camp) was the MOST believable. She had some real fucking emotion when she first ran into them.
However, ever the naysayer, I am calling bullshit on the "runaway camp". Majority of people that leave the FLDS live in shit apartments with distant relatives or with others who had gotten out before them. Somehow they always manage to contact them before they get out and then head out to meet them one day. This isn't the normal circumstance for the escapees. Once out of the FLDS sect, it is really EASY to hide in normal society less then 5minutes away. I call bullshit on this too, and feel this was only used as another drama-inducing shock factor.
I'm not sure if the director was purposely trying to think that he was sexist, but that was the feeling I got when the director purposely made the cop look like an idiot with the kidnapping comment. Was that degrading shit really necessary? No, and honestly, it did nothing for the storyline (or my attention span).
So when they are documenting the "life stories" at the camp, the reasons for not telling anyone they were being molested/raped ranged from "They said I would burn like toast" (how does that even make fucking sense??), "I wanted to be a Goddess in the spirit world" (Even as LDS, I have no IDEA where this was derrived from...I've never heard of becoming goddess in the after life in any form of the LDS religion), to "You're lucky, you don't need to clutter your day with anything but follow the prophet" (even from an FLDS perspective, that's REALLY fucking far out there - that is not the REASON they follow their prophet, and I don't buy it for this). And once again, none of them really show any key indicators of being rape victims at all.
I've also NEVER, ABSOLUTELY NEVER, heard nor seen ANY scriptures that absolutely state 100% you need 3 wives in order to become a God. First of all, LDS is one of those religions that does NOT hold ANY idols before their god and does NOT believe in false gods. It's a core function of our religion. For that matter, why so specific and where the fuck are these supposed scriptures? I've read the Bible, N Testament, O Testament, Pearl o Great Price, Book of Mormon, etc and no where has it EVER said that. The ONLY thing that come close to that is the FLDS scripture (they actually have their own set that I've never read) that states you get eternal paradise IF you have 3 wives. Kind of like the 40 virgins in heaven, but NOT become a god. It's considered to give you highest form of salvation, and 3 is the minimum requirement.
The mystery behind the "saw my little brother screaming" is also pretty worthless. They delved so much into what happened to the girls, that they didn't even really broach what happened to the boys. All they did was add onto the "occult" ideals by bringing it up briefly and not even in detail. It didn't explain anything, nor was it even a part of the storyline.
In the movie he goes to a military base named Fort Murray in Utah. There is no Fort Murray in Utah. There is Hill Air Force Base (near Ogden), Dugway Proving Ground (Dugway), and Tooele Army Depot. No Fort Murray. There is also no TOWN named Fort Murray in Utah, at all. This place doesn't exist. By the looks of it, it REALLY looks like Hill Air Force Base. Previously, they said that he was prior Delta Force (Army Branch). Dugway and Tooele are both Army posts, however almost no one gets stationed there unless they are considered recruiters (we're stationed near Hill Air Force Base, and we're active duty military, but only under mitigated circumstances). I am once again, calling bullshit and my bullshit detector is going up in flames.
I would also like to add that when the Army guy was saying it was a local matter, he was mainly doing it to keep the peace. That is what they attempt to do, at all costs, otherwise the locals get up in arms about how we live in a militarized state. However, there HAVE been circumstances (like this) where they HAVE contacted the authorities of the area and assisted in the investigation. I also, honestly have to say that there has NEVER been a military cover-up on something like this just because so-and-so was born there and prejudiced. I'm sorry, but no. My husband is an officer and had a shit fit when he heard the movie say that. This is just another HATEFUL/BIGOT segment.
This entire movie so far has just been one lie after another. Sure, some of this shit really DOES happen but NOT to this extreme. The world isn't full of ONE BIG COVERUP! Bullshit! No. An entire STATE (local, federal, state, military etc) do NOT work that closely together and I have NEVER heard of an FLDS sect covering that wide of a range - let alone INFLUENCE it. Usually they are shunned first, not liked. Most of the FLDS nutcakes live off the grid and have absolutely no jobs (if they do, it's a small job) that won't have this range of effect. They just simply don't have the members, and honestly have a screwed up religion (I'm surprised they get ANY members at all). It may SEEM like it, but once you get out of that initial sect - you're golden.
As per his famous line: "Church first before God, Country, Brother". I call bullshit on that. My husband is a military man and put the military before church, and god before them both. Family comes first always. Who the fuck even wrote this trash? When he's not trashing the FLDS/LDS religion (he considers them the same religion, remember?), he's trashing the military. Yes, I did hear the "blip" about fundamentalists breaking off from the church. That was one line, in the middle of the movie (over an hour and 15minutes into it) and the director didn't think it was prudent to delve into it anymore. Assholes.
The equipment that Marx uses for surveillance is actually considered high tech gear. It costs too much to buy on even a Delta's paycheck and no way would he get permission from somebody to borrow it from base. He actually wouldn't be able to leave base with any of it. They make sure nothing leaves the storage rooms.
As per making millions a year, that is from OUR tithes and our PRIVATELY owned businesses. The church does NOT own our jobs, we do. Also, the FLDS does NOT make millions a year - only the LDS. The FLDS is such a smaller sect that it's almost non-existant, and to group our tithes in with them is fucking stupid. As per all unwed mothers collecting welfare, I call BS on that generalization too. There are niggers out there popping out kids JUST to collect WIC and those food stamps. What the fuck. For that matter, majority of LDS members do NOT take advantage of government programs like that (most of us are comfortable in our own upkeep without having to take out handouts). So, the entire time they are talking about the money - it is REALLY about the LDS church. There is also a population of 3million people in the state of Utah (2010 census) and only 12% of our actual total members in the world live in Utah. So, no, this isn't a state of "fraud". Also, they acted like tithes are done "per day". They are only done once a month, sometimes even more infrequently as 6 months to a year. Even then, it is completely up to the INDIVIDUAL how much they DONATE to the church. Businesses do NOT donate to the church, at least not monetary. Usually they donate services or food for homeless shelters (which we are #1 in giving back to communities).
We believe (like almost all other religions have iconic figureheads) that our prophet DOES speak with God ocassionally. However, just because the prophet tells me to jump off a bridge, doesn't mean that I don't have the free will to ignore that "command". The prophet NEVER COMMANDS us to do anything. He mainly offers support and guidance. Not direct orders or commands though (unless it's thou shalt not kill your annoying neighbor).
I have also never seen a missionary holding a sniper rifle. They don't carry sniper rifles on them. LOL As a missionary, you are definatily not supposed to kill anyone. Hunting is okay for normal civilians and being the military is okay too, but we don't go hunting PEOPLE. LOL I'm not even sure what this discple of hell bullshit the father was spewing on about. LOL I still have yet to find any proof that the prophet is God of this earth etc. No such thing at all. It is asinine to assume so, when our religion is SO clear on it.
It's also not that simple to pull out a bullet, Delta training or not. In fact, a lot of people die each year because they saw it done on TV and attempt to do an extraction themself. I really doubt the validity behind this entire scene.
Also for the record, our prophets only have ONE wife and usually are well past the age of 60 after getting elected into office (by the church board)...and well married for over 30 years. Nor does he have an armed guard like the Pope or the President. LOL He walks around like an everyday person, and I'm sure no one even knows who he is or what his name is.
Final comment: That is not what our garments look like at all. There are multiples, including thongs! /gasp I do not, however wear them, because I get itchy with certain fabrics. However, they do have silk garments - but I just don't see the need to spend that much money on underwear when I can just wear a thong or go commando!
I am disgusted, once again, with the fact that they are lumping together the FLDS and LDS church together. They seem to blur the lines when it comes down to making an interesting movie. As shown by all of my complaints, and corrections, they have missed the factual mark by far. This was purely to create more bigots and hatred towards the government (all types) and the LDS.
The worst part about this was that people took this movie as FACTUAL, about our REAL church and REAL events that transpired. This did NOT happen to the LDS church. It has resemblances to the FLDS church, but NOT OURS. There is also maybe 5 LDS members in any sort of public office, so this widespread pandemic of us taking over the world is insane.
This movie was NOT REAL! PLEASE REALIZE THIS AND LOOK INTO THE FACTS YOURSELF! This man does NOT deserve any awards or rewards for his blatant biogtry and hate-filled movie.
Tom Hanks, HBO and Big Love
I was pointed to the show called Big Love by a random poster. I am going to start watching it from the start, but I have high hopes that it will be - yet another - inaccurate portrayal of Mormons/LDS members. I have already seen several posts from people approving the Proposition 8 (remember the prophet made a damaging comment about not voting for it, but later clarified it after the news completed distorted what he said), and that is purely out of revenge and hate.
I also noticed another interesting tidbit. Apparently it was LEGAL to kill a Mormon person (not FLDS, wtf?) until the year 2000. What the fuck. If anyone should be legal to shoot on sight, it should be Phelps or the FLDS. I mean what the fuck. We're not pedophiles and we're pretty awesome guys.
I will say this. From what I saw of the "wedding ceremony" in the temple, and the news article about the "LDS and FLDS" joining arms against the invasion of our sacred religious traditions...I am really not looking forwards to watching it.
This was my response on one of their message boards in regards to it:
There are many people here making comments about the temple marriage that was shown on the HBO series Big Love. I was disgusted to see all of your comments. It showed me how many bigots and uninformed people in the world there still are. This show is an inaccurate portrayal of the LDS faith. It doesn't even distinguish between the FLDS, ROLDS (Reorganized LDS) and LDS communities.
Aside from not distinguishing between them, their facts about our temple covenants and "rituals" were far from true. The producers and Tom Hanks didn't even get their facts from ACTIVE members, who are ALLOWED inside the most sacred section of the temple. For the record: If someone is no longer an active member in the church, they are NOT allowed in the temple for baptisms or ANY other type of "ritual". They are only allowed inside the visitors center without a temple recommend. It is literally impossible to get into a temple without your recommend, which is kept on file at ALL churches and ALL temples.
Why would the show trust anyone that was no longer a member, or never was? For example, the main character MIGHT of been a member - but obviously no longer is...so why take her word for it? That is like asking a child abuser for insight into a child's mind. It is completely false and skewed. I would never believe someone as a "source" of fact on something, that they are SO obviously biased against.
The main character (Barb?), claims she is a polygamist during the entire series but if you asked anyone in the church if a polygamist is allowed inside a church (let alone a temple) - the answer will be unequivocally NO. She is excommunicated for committing adultery and breaking one of our most sacred commandments. For good reason!
Contrary to what she claimed on the show, she is NOT cast into eternal damnation for being a polygamist (or was it because she was excommunicated? either was she has no idea what she is talking about). There are actually multiple levels of hell, and the eternal damnation is saved for the lowest of the low. Adultery is one sin out of 10 - though there are some minor ones. If she murdered an entire town and assaulted 50 children, THEN she'd be screwed. So, she is obviously wrong. The water works were a nice touch for all those bigots out there.
The entire ceremony that I saw (I only saw blips, still need to watch the entire series), is false. In that light, the Mormon church doesn't see the temple marriage ceremony as a cult-ish secret, but rather as sacred. Every religion has something that is sacred, and our temples are ours. The fact that HBO claimed to have "inside information" on it (most of which is made up from an internet search) and then willingly threw it on the show, shows us how little respect they have for ANY religion.
This is not a matter of "freedom of the press" or "freedom of speech". Those two freedoms will only go so far, and if you are infringing on the rights of others ("freedom of religion"!) then you should be held accountable. I am not saying our prophet should sue HBO, but I am saying that they crossed a line. It is like undressing Tom Hank's wife and parading her down the street naked. That is how a lot of us feel, especially since the show (from what I've seen) NEVER CORRECTS it's mistakes. This is definitely a mistake.
Also, their apology is a half-hearted attempt to make light of the situation. We all remember the South Park episode where they attempted to draw Muhammad (?). That religion caused such a stink over it, that eventually they came up with a way around it...without insulting the religion or it's SACRED beliefs. We were never afforded that luxory. Not when the series started, and not when this episode aired. We were only asked for our opinions AFTER the fact, and then offered a pat on the back. I am honestly not surprised at this. Everyone sees Mormons as a disgusting version of a religion. They see our prophet say something slightly misleading and use it against us. Every chance people get, they attack us - and it's been this way from the start of our relgion.
I have seen a lot of bigotry and intolerance in the comments. Not only do many of you assume you know EVERYTHING about our religion because of this series, but a lot of you are taking revenge on us. Apparently the prophet's words on Prop 8 has skewed a few minds. I hope you all realize that his words were taken out of context, and the reporters offered a retraction. Also, any LDS member that DID agree with banning gay marriage, did so out of their OWN OPINION and their OWN POCKET. Meaning, everyone has a different opinion on it (I personally agree with gay marriage).
You all do realize that being hateful creatures only makes people want to oppose it even more, right? Well, good thing most of us are amazing people and can give you repentence - even when you don't want/ask for it. I hope you all realize that this show is just a major slam fest against our religion. Not one fact on here is actually factual. It is purely for entertainment, and people are eating it up. When my kids are all grown up, I am sure they will still be made fun of because of our religion (hell, even if their Mom just stay LDS). As soon as outsiders hear that we are LDS, we see the looks. We hear the comments. This is why we LOVE being in Utah. In NJ, there were only 5 LDS members in my huge HS. My classmates fucked with me about my religion ALL the time. And when you attempt to explain it to them, you get attacked even more. It's VERY hard to explain some things as a teenager, when people just ignore you anyways.
I find it rather hypocritical of all the Prop 8 lovers to claim WE don't have tolerance for THEM, when they easily attack our religion for certain opinions. It's like grouping all women together just because ONE woman doesn't like make-up. Just because a few people feel one way, doesn't mean we all do. Have some common sense, and if you're not going to have common sense - don't be fucking ignorant, hypocritical prick about it.
As per the LDS religion having allowed "spiritual polygamy" between a man and multiple wives, I would like to add that you can get a "spiritual divorce". It is a pretty simple task, much easier then getting sealed together. The "spiritual polygamy" is just another case of people acting like they know something when in reality, they don't. The way the doctrine was worded (someone quoted it), was from when the church was created in 1600. It has not changed since, and I doubt they will update it anytime soon. It was never meant to enforce the idea of polygamy (we have been against it since the beginning of our church), and instead to help families understand the importance of being attached to each other after death. Personally, when I die, I would like to know that my kids are near me and my husband is there too. Just how I am - make them put up with me even after they die! BWAHAHAH!
So, to me, HBO and Tom Hanks crossed a line. Our temples are sacred, and no cameras are even allowed in there (just like in OTHER religious temples across the globe). Let alone non-active non-members. What was shown on this show is an inaccurate portrayal of our religion, yet again. None of the things shown on the show are FACTS. The creators/writers/producers of this shown have shown me within 5minutes of watching, that they will NEVER clarify this explicitly with their viewers.
We are NOT an occult. We never WERE! Just because people do not understand our practices or beliefs, doesn't mean that we are one. There are some things (like in our temples) that outsiders will NEVER understand. Hell, some our ex/members don't even grasp the concept of it. It was never about a secret handshake and a leg lock. It was ALWAYS about WANTING to be SEALED with your spouse for eternity, so that you are NEVER separated.
It has many deep religious connotations for us, and is NOT about "secret" practices. You all are acting like we slaughter sheep in our temples, and we do not. It is more for us to deepen our faith, love, trust and minds. I do not attend church regularly, nor go to the temple anymore, but I can tell everyone that I would NEVER EVER slander our religion like Tom Hanks and Big Love has done.
So, in the end, if you don't understand it or know EVERYTHING that goes on in the church (exLDS members can butt out, you're skewed), shut your fucking mouth. You're all acting like jackasses and need a serious reality check. Don't tell me you want tolerance for your gay marriage and then attack me the next day because of my fucking religion. You're all fucking hypocrites.
I also noticed another interesting tidbit. Apparently it was LEGAL to kill a Mormon person (not FLDS, wtf?) until the year 2000. What the fuck. If anyone should be legal to shoot on sight, it should be Phelps or the FLDS. I mean what the fuck. We're not pedophiles and we're pretty awesome guys.
I will say this. From what I saw of the "wedding ceremony" in the temple, and the news article about the "LDS and FLDS" joining arms against the invasion of our sacred religious traditions...I am really not looking forwards to watching it.
This was my response on one of their message boards in regards to it:
There are many people here making comments about the temple marriage that was shown on the HBO series Big Love. I was disgusted to see all of your comments. It showed me how many bigots and uninformed people in the world there still are. This show is an inaccurate portrayal of the LDS faith. It doesn't even distinguish between the FLDS, ROLDS (Reorganized LDS) and LDS communities.
Aside from not distinguishing between them, their facts about our temple covenants and "rituals" were far from true. The producers and Tom Hanks didn't even get their facts from ACTIVE members, who are ALLOWED inside the most sacred section of the temple. For the record: If someone is no longer an active member in the church, they are NOT allowed in the temple for baptisms or ANY other type of "ritual". They are only allowed inside the visitors center without a temple recommend. It is literally impossible to get into a temple without your recommend, which is kept on file at ALL churches and ALL temples.
Why would the show trust anyone that was no longer a member, or never was? For example, the main character MIGHT of been a member - but obviously no longer is...so why take her word for it? That is like asking a child abuser for insight into a child's mind. It is completely false and skewed. I would never believe someone as a "source" of fact on something, that they are SO obviously biased against.
The main character (Barb?), claims she is a polygamist during the entire series but if you asked anyone in the church if a polygamist is allowed inside a church (let alone a temple) - the answer will be unequivocally NO. She is excommunicated for committing adultery and breaking one of our most sacred commandments. For good reason!
Contrary to what she claimed on the show, she is NOT cast into eternal damnation for being a polygamist (or was it because she was excommunicated? either was she has no idea what she is talking about). There are actually multiple levels of hell, and the eternal damnation is saved for the lowest of the low. Adultery is one sin out of 10 - though there are some minor ones. If she murdered an entire town and assaulted 50 children, THEN she'd be screwed. So, she is obviously wrong. The water works were a nice touch for all those bigots out there.
The entire ceremony that I saw (I only saw blips, still need to watch the entire series), is false. In that light, the Mormon church doesn't see the temple marriage ceremony as a cult-ish secret, but rather as sacred. Every religion has something that is sacred, and our temples are ours. The fact that HBO claimed to have "inside information" on it (most of which is made up from an internet search) and then willingly threw it on the show, shows us how little respect they have for ANY religion.
This is not a matter of "freedom of the press" or "freedom of speech". Those two freedoms will only go so far, and if you are infringing on the rights of others ("freedom of religion"!) then you should be held accountable. I am not saying our prophet should sue HBO, but I am saying that they crossed a line. It is like undressing Tom Hank's wife and parading her down the street naked. That is how a lot of us feel, especially since the show (from what I've seen) NEVER CORRECTS it's mistakes. This is definitely a mistake.
Also, their apology is a half-hearted attempt to make light of the situation. We all remember the South Park episode where they attempted to draw Muhammad (?). That religion caused such a stink over it, that eventually they came up with a way around it...without insulting the religion or it's SACRED beliefs. We were never afforded that luxory. Not when the series started, and not when this episode aired. We were only asked for our opinions AFTER the fact, and then offered a pat on the back. I am honestly not surprised at this. Everyone sees Mormons as a disgusting version of a religion. They see our prophet say something slightly misleading and use it against us. Every chance people get, they attack us - and it's been this way from the start of our relgion.
I have seen a lot of bigotry and intolerance in the comments. Not only do many of you assume you know EVERYTHING about our religion because of this series, but a lot of you are taking revenge on us. Apparently the prophet's words on Prop 8 has skewed a few minds. I hope you all realize that his words were taken out of context, and the reporters offered a retraction. Also, any LDS member that DID agree with banning gay marriage, did so out of their OWN OPINION and their OWN POCKET. Meaning, everyone has a different opinion on it (I personally agree with gay marriage).
You all do realize that being hateful creatures only makes people want to oppose it even more, right? Well, good thing most of us are amazing people and can give you repentence - even when you don't want/ask for it. I hope you all realize that this show is just a major slam fest against our religion. Not one fact on here is actually factual. It is purely for entertainment, and people are eating it up. When my kids are all grown up, I am sure they will still be made fun of because of our religion (hell, even if their Mom just stay LDS). As soon as outsiders hear that we are LDS, we see the looks. We hear the comments. This is why we LOVE being in Utah. In NJ, there were only 5 LDS members in my huge HS. My classmates fucked with me about my religion ALL the time. And when you attempt to explain it to them, you get attacked even more. It's VERY hard to explain some things as a teenager, when people just ignore you anyways.
I find it rather hypocritical of all the Prop 8 lovers to claim WE don't have tolerance for THEM, when they easily attack our religion for certain opinions. It's like grouping all women together just because ONE woman doesn't like make-up. Just because a few people feel one way, doesn't mean we all do. Have some common sense, and if you're not going to have common sense - don't be fucking ignorant, hypocritical prick about it.
As per the LDS religion having allowed "spiritual polygamy" between a man and multiple wives, I would like to add that you can get a "spiritual divorce". It is a pretty simple task, much easier then getting sealed together. The "spiritual polygamy" is just another case of people acting like they know something when in reality, they don't. The way the doctrine was worded (someone quoted it), was from when the church was created in 1600. It has not changed since, and I doubt they will update it anytime soon. It was never meant to enforce the idea of polygamy (we have been against it since the beginning of our church), and instead to help families understand the importance of being attached to each other after death. Personally, when I die, I would like to know that my kids are near me and my husband is there too. Just how I am - make them put up with me even after they die! BWAHAHAH!
So, to me, HBO and Tom Hanks crossed a line. Our temples are sacred, and no cameras are even allowed in there (just like in OTHER religious temples across the globe). Let alone non-active non-members. What was shown on this show is an inaccurate portrayal of our religion, yet again. None of the things shown on the show are FACTS. The creators/writers/producers of this shown have shown me within 5minutes of watching, that they will NEVER clarify this explicitly with their viewers.
We are NOT an occult. We never WERE! Just because people do not understand our practices or beliefs, doesn't mean that we are one. There are some things (like in our temples) that outsiders will NEVER understand. Hell, some our ex/members don't even grasp the concept of it. It was never about a secret handshake and a leg lock. It was ALWAYS about WANTING to be SEALED with your spouse for eternity, so that you are NEVER separated.
It has many deep religious connotations for us, and is NOT about "secret" practices. You all are acting like we slaughter sheep in our temples, and we do not. It is more for us to deepen our faith, love, trust and minds. I do not attend church regularly, nor go to the temple anymore, but I can tell everyone that I would NEVER EVER slander our religion like Tom Hanks and Big Love has done.
So, in the end, if you don't understand it or know EVERYTHING that goes on in the church (exLDS members can butt out, you're skewed), shut your fucking mouth. You're all acting like jackasses and need a serious reality check. Don't tell me you want tolerance for your gay marriage and then attack me the next day because of my fucking religion. You're all fucking hypocrites.
Movie Review: Follow The Prophet
Warning: This is long and may contain spoilers.
I am LDS and so is my husband. He was raised in ND, and I was raised in NJ. Our churches were entirely different, but held the same principles. Yes, sometimes when you go across country every church will seem completely different - but that really comes down to the exact congregation you are in. My husband doesn't smoke, dresses like a dork (he once wanted a temple marriage and a mission - ew), and rarely curses. Whereas I curse like a sailor, smoke, drink caffeine, and dress like a normal person. I was the one to request getting married in a local city hall and our marriage was far from arranged. While we were raised completely different, in different states with different types of people, we still believe in the same things. That will NEVER change.
I just finished watching the movie Follow the Prophet about the FLDS sect. I can honestly say, as a born and raised LDS/Mormon member (my husband too), that the director made quite a few mistakes. One such being that LDS and FLDS are NOT the same religion, and the LDS church does NOT condone such actions (polygamy, incest, pedophilia, etc). The prophet of the Mormon community has even spoken out against such occults, stating that any member currently breaking the law in such a way, will be instantly ex-communicated. I am all for that judgment, and happy that it has been addressed.
However, there are STILL ignorant people out there (like this director apparently) that believe the FLDS and LDS religion are one in the same. We are NOT - NOT - NOT! The FLDS religion was created over a 100 yrs ago when some church members didn't agree with abolishing polygamy (which was a good decision), as well as some other practices (arranged marriages, marriage to anyone under the legal age, incest etc). We are NOT the same religion and to group us with such sick freaks, makes me really angry.
For that matter, these ignorant people are also under the assumption that Mormon people are freaks. That apparently we wear the same clothing as the FLDS. No, we don't. It is suggested not to wear skirts 2 inches above the knee, and yes there are temple garment. However, none of it is required and majority of us blend into mainstream society. Half the people that meet me, NEVER guess to think that I am LDS. I'm not surprised.
I have a big mouth and more then willingly open it. People are usually shocked to find out that I am LDS, because some people think that the women in LDS marriages are typical 50s women (seen not heard, in the kitchen). That is FAR from true. I can't cook for the life of me, and my husband doesn't hold the pants in this relationship at all. I control all the finances (bills, kids etc), and he works for the military. We have an equal relationship where no one has more of a burden then the either. In fact, it turns out that LDS marriages are usually the ones that LAST. The divorce rate in America is up to 80% of all marriages. (We believe in divorce, so if I want to I will walk away) However, every single couple that I knew/know (that is LDS) are perfectly happy with their relationhips and wouldn't change anything for the world. Believe me, I've asked. I'm a curious individual.
In the first 10 minutes of the movie, the girls are all sitting in "church" talking about getting to the highest level of heaven. Apparently, according to this director (even the LDS apparently believe this!), that is to give our bodies and minds willingly to our men. Uh. No. The way to get to our highest level of heaven is to believe in God, and follow the 10 commandments. Where the hell does this guy get off saying that kind of shit about us? Fuck! It even says it on Mormon.org. This isn't that hard to figure out!!! What the fuck was this guy smoking when he came up with this nonsense!
There is also rumors out there that the children are brainwashed. That is ludicrous. Aside from the fact that we don't attend church regularly, we are one of the ONLY churches that don't baptize infants. We learn the church principles and then when we are 8 we decide if we'd like to join the church. However, if you grow older and don't agree with the religion, you can ALWAYS leave. Personally, my children don't attend church. They are too young. We decided not to take them until they are old enough to understand what religion is (and sit through sacrament) and make a choice for themselves.
My children are actually one of the best behaved kids I have EVER come across. I know I am biased, but damn, some of the parents these days just need to spank their brats. I would NEVER force my child to join a religion, unlike the Catholics (etc) when they do NOT comprehend what they are doing.
Hence, I have MORE respect for a church that does NOT force infants (who are just born!!) to be baptized. You'd be surprised how many people looked down on us because we didn't immediately hold baptizisms for our kids. Hi, I am Mormon. Nice to meet you.
For the record, we currently live in UTAH. Mormon capital. The people here are like any other people you will come across in ANY town. There are good apples and bad apples. In fact, Utah has the lowest crime rate out of the entire US! That is GOOD! This place is wonderful to live in, and the people are almost always friendly. I like it here, even if my neighbors hate my guts.
Someone even had the nerve to comment on a review website that the LDS community is full of sick pedophiles that abuse children. I am a HUGE child advocate. I would NEVER join a church that was full of abusive pedophiles. If I wanted to do that, I'd join the Catholic church (look it up, they willingly covered up yet another case in 2008 - Ireland). I am also the leader of the local pedophile watch. Meaning, I keep tabs on the pedophiles with other parents and assist the cops in arresting the ones that BREAK THEIR PROBATION. Being informed is a GREAT way to figure out what is going on in the world. I also LOVE Nancy Grace - even if she can be mean sometimes.
The main problem I had with this movie was the fact that the director didn't properly do his research. If he had spent 10 minute on Mormon.org, he'd know that the two religions hate each other and have nothing in common. As time has passed, the FLDS church has slowly stopped practicing our core beliefs and that means they are a whole different religion of their own. I felt that he was overstating it in the movie, and would like to clarify that for all the ignorant people out there. We are NOT the same religion.
His little subtext in the begging/end that we were not the same religion, did NOTHING to dissuade the audience from THINKING we were the same church. Also, to state that this was based in Utah (there was only ONE FLDS church in Utah EVER and it was promptly shut down as soon as possible) and that the locals did nothing to help or stop the situation is completely false. We don't like seeing this type of behavior, at all. This seemed like propaganda (like Hitler used) to smear the Mormon church and Utah. I'm sorry, but no, we don't let that sort of thing happen willingly.
For that matter, there shouldn't of been a "big love" statement at the start of the movie. I was disgusted by it, actually. The distinct difference between the two religions was blurred into one solid line throughout the entire movie, and NEVER cleared up. I saw this movie as anti-LDS (as well as anti-FLDS) and just used to create a tension and even more hatred to the LDS. There really should have been a distinct difference mentioned.
Aside from that, even the beginning being anti-military was a big turn off for me. Her little comments about the military in her "letter" to her nonexistant father was a slap in the face to the REAL military members out there. Just like in society, there are good and bad people. They are /gasp, also in the military. Yes, that could have been her personal experience. However, as my husband is a core military member, the military is NOT like how she described. I was disgusted by it, especially after she was shot in the face.
Honestly, I've done a LOT of research out there on the FLDS (because of situations like this) and there aren't many occults hanging out anymore. There are a few hidden away, sure, but the FBI usually shuts them down right quick (like in Tx last year). I feel that this movie would have had a better go if they had attacked a religion like Catholicism instead. We KNOW for a fact that there were HUNDREDS of pedophiles in that church (not the same for the LDS, not even close kthx) and after the church found out about it - they didn't have them arrested (unlike EVERY other church), but relocated them to abuse even more people. In the end of the very first inquiry, there were THOUSANDS of victims. Even with the FLDS there are only HUNDREDS. Not to mention that AFTER the first arrests and closure of the Catholic church, yet another few cases have appeared in Ireland. That church is doing nothing but making themselves worse, and trying to hide it.
But, no, let's attack all LDS people. That's more of an incite to a religion war! I am disgusted that this film won ANY awards, let alone had so many ignorant viewers. I'm still standing by attacking Catholicism instead. I'm sure the film director wanted to be novel, but he was going about it the entirely wrong way. He didn't have his facts straight, confused the viewers, and attacked a religion that really is NOT that bad. If he had attacked Catholicism instead, I'm sure there would have been 100% more drama around it (like their church banning the movie, unlike ours that didn't) and they would have a point!!!
What it comes down to is this: LDS/Mormon religion is always misunderstood. Even half of THIS country's newstations can't figure out the difference between FLDS and LDS. We are constantly being attacked, and for what? We NEVER did anything wrong from DAY ONE of our religion. Just because you don't understand or don't believe in the same things as us, doesn't mean that it is a-okay to completely trash us. Remember the Holocaust anyone?
The simple fact that we had to move to our own little terority to live in the 1600s is proof enough that non-believers are complete hypocrites. You all attacked us from the beginning, and haven't stopped since. Get your facts straight and just leave us alone. We NEVER abided by polygamy, even in the 1600s when it was considered the "norm", and we had enough insight to "suggest" (not required) to our member that certain things are harmful. Like omg, smoking is bad! Or drinking will kill a poor child crossing the road!
What EVIL people we are! There are OTHER religions like the Phelps-Roper clan, who DESERVE to be attacked. We are normal people, who work normal jobs, dress normally, and act normally. Unlike the Catholics who hide their pedophiles and dictate the lives of their members, or unlike the Phelps clan who accuse ALL military members (even ones married with kids) of being faggots. I think if anyone should be attacked, it would have to be someone like those two.
I'm still sticking to this director is a complete waste of air and shouldn't be directing shit. If you can't figure out the difference between two easy to reference religions, you shouldn't attempt to make a crappy (storyline was almost nonexistant) documentary about it. It was a BAD movie.
It was also filled with horrifyingly disgusting content. The nudity and perfidy in it was too graphic for me. I watch some raunchy shit sometimes (just got done rewatching the latest Saw movie), but when I saw the attempted rape on the daughter...I was screaming WTF at the computer screen. It seemed like all the director wanted to do was SHOCK the audience so that they could see what was "really" happening in the LDS community or to SHOCK the audience into remembering his piece of shit "art". It was terribly directed, researched, horrible acting, horrible screen play, and honestly there was hardly a storyline.
When almost all the cast was killed, I wasn't even affected by it. I laughed. I wasn't attached them at all. There was no sort of plot line to their development and it was comical, to say the least. At the end of the movie, I was stuck in this land of "this was a waste of my time" and a mix of "wow that was some hateful shit". THIS is religious intolerance. So sad for the ONLY religion who PREACHES tolerance to be the one constantly (!!!) attacked. I think this might be WHY they do attack us. Because, we aren't like the Catholic church who will just tell it's members to stop doing this or that just because they don't agree with a book (I loved that movie!). We take all of it in stride, and I'm finally going to be the one to say - you're a fucking idiot and a bigot!
PS. The Duggar (?) family with 18 kids is really creepy too. I know that most American, regardless of religion, have 6 kids nowadays (seriously, look at the census from this year), but for fuck's sake if my kid is having kids the same time I am - that screams WTF! Too many kids, and they dress themselves like the FLDS. Plus, she home teaches all of them (most biblical lessons), names them all names like Elisiah (but isn't it all J's?), and looks like she BELONGS to the FLDS community. I watched their show a few times and they just screamed pedophiles in grooming to me. Creepy!!!!
No, I will not have 18 kids. I will most likely only have 1 more, and then maybe adopt 1 when we are around 40 yrs old and our kids are self-sufficient.
I am LDS and so is my husband. He was raised in ND, and I was raised in NJ. Our churches were entirely different, but held the same principles. Yes, sometimes when you go across country every church will seem completely different - but that really comes down to the exact congregation you are in. My husband doesn't smoke, dresses like a dork (he once wanted a temple marriage and a mission - ew), and rarely curses. Whereas I curse like a sailor, smoke, drink caffeine, and dress like a normal person. I was the one to request getting married in a local city hall and our marriage was far from arranged. While we were raised completely different, in different states with different types of people, we still believe in the same things. That will NEVER change.
I just finished watching the movie Follow the Prophet about the FLDS sect. I can honestly say, as a born and raised LDS/Mormon member (my husband too), that the director made quite a few mistakes. One such being that LDS and FLDS are NOT the same religion, and the LDS church does NOT condone such actions (polygamy, incest, pedophilia, etc). The prophet of the Mormon community has even spoken out against such occults, stating that any member currently breaking the law in such a way, will be instantly ex-communicated. I am all for that judgment, and happy that it has been addressed.
However, there are STILL ignorant people out there (like this director apparently) that believe the FLDS and LDS religion are one in the same. We are NOT - NOT - NOT! The FLDS religion was created over a 100 yrs ago when some church members didn't agree with abolishing polygamy (which was a good decision), as well as some other practices (arranged marriages, marriage to anyone under the legal age, incest etc). We are NOT the same religion and to group us with such sick freaks, makes me really angry.
For that matter, these ignorant people are also under the assumption that Mormon people are freaks. That apparently we wear the same clothing as the FLDS. No, we don't. It is suggested not to wear skirts 2 inches above the knee, and yes there are temple garment. However, none of it is required and majority of us blend into mainstream society. Half the people that meet me, NEVER guess to think that I am LDS. I'm not surprised.
I have a big mouth and more then willingly open it. People are usually shocked to find out that I am LDS, because some people think that the women in LDS marriages are typical 50s women (seen not heard, in the kitchen). That is FAR from true. I can't cook for the life of me, and my husband doesn't hold the pants in this relationship at all. I control all the finances (bills, kids etc), and he works for the military. We have an equal relationship where no one has more of a burden then the either. In fact, it turns out that LDS marriages are usually the ones that LAST. The divorce rate in America is up to 80% of all marriages. (We believe in divorce, so if I want to I will walk away) However, every single couple that I knew/know (that is LDS) are perfectly happy with their relationhips and wouldn't change anything for the world. Believe me, I've asked. I'm a curious individual.
In the first 10 minutes of the movie, the girls are all sitting in "church" talking about getting to the highest level of heaven. Apparently, according to this director (even the LDS apparently believe this!), that is to give our bodies and minds willingly to our men. Uh. No. The way to get to our highest level of heaven is to believe in God, and follow the 10 commandments. Where the hell does this guy get off saying that kind of shit about us? Fuck! It even says it on Mormon.org. This isn't that hard to figure out!!! What the fuck was this guy smoking when he came up with this nonsense!
There is also rumors out there that the children are brainwashed. That is ludicrous. Aside from the fact that we don't attend church regularly, we are one of the ONLY churches that don't baptize infants. We learn the church principles and then when we are 8 we decide if we'd like to join the church. However, if you grow older and don't agree with the religion, you can ALWAYS leave. Personally, my children don't attend church. They are too young. We decided not to take them until they are old enough to understand what religion is (and sit through sacrament) and make a choice for themselves.
My children are actually one of the best behaved kids I have EVER come across. I know I am biased, but damn, some of the parents these days just need to spank their brats. I would NEVER force my child to join a religion, unlike the Catholics (etc) when they do NOT comprehend what they are doing.
Hence, I have MORE respect for a church that does NOT force infants (who are just born!!) to be baptized. You'd be surprised how many people looked down on us because we didn't immediately hold baptizisms for our kids. Hi, I am Mormon. Nice to meet you.
For the record, we currently live in UTAH. Mormon capital. The people here are like any other people you will come across in ANY town. There are good apples and bad apples. In fact, Utah has the lowest crime rate out of the entire US! That is GOOD! This place is wonderful to live in, and the people are almost always friendly. I like it here, even if my neighbors hate my guts.
Someone even had the nerve to comment on a review website that the LDS community is full of sick pedophiles that abuse children. I am a HUGE child advocate. I would NEVER join a church that was full of abusive pedophiles. If I wanted to do that, I'd join the Catholic church (look it up, they willingly covered up yet another case in 2008 - Ireland). I am also the leader of the local pedophile watch. Meaning, I keep tabs on the pedophiles with other parents and assist the cops in arresting the ones that BREAK THEIR PROBATION. Being informed is a GREAT way to figure out what is going on in the world. I also LOVE Nancy Grace - even if she can be mean sometimes.
The main problem I had with this movie was the fact that the director didn't properly do his research. If he had spent 10 minute on Mormon.org, he'd know that the two religions hate each other and have nothing in common. As time has passed, the FLDS church has slowly stopped practicing our core beliefs and that means they are a whole different religion of their own. I felt that he was overstating it in the movie, and would like to clarify that for all the ignorant people out there. We are NOT the same religion.
His little subtext in the begging/end that we were not the same religion, did NOTHING to dissuade the audience from THINKING we were the same church. Also, to state that this was based in Utah (there was only ONE FLDS church in Utah EVER and it was promptly shut down as soon as possible) and that the locals did nothing to help or stop the situation is completely false. We don't like seeing this type of behavior, at all. This seemed like propaganda (like Hitler used) to smear the Mormon church and Utah. I'm sorry, but no, we don't let that sort of thing happen willingly.
For that matter, there shouldn't of been a "big love" statement at the start of the movie. I was disgusted by it, actually. The distinct difference between the two religions was blurred into one solid line throughout the entire movie, and NEVER cleared up. I saw this movie as anti-LDS (as well as anti-FLDS) and just used to create a tension and even more hatred to the LDS. There really should have been a distinct difference mentioned.
Aside from that, even the beginning being anti-military was a big turn off for me. Her little comments about the military in her "letter" to her nonexistant father was a slap in the face to the REAL military members out there. Just like in society, there are good and bad people. They are /gasp, also in the military. Yes, that could have been her personal experience. However, as my husband is a core military member, the military is NOT like how she described. I was disgusted by it, especially after she was shot in the face.
Honestly, I've done a LOT of research out there on the FLDS (because of situations like this) and there aren't many occults hanging out anymore. There are a few hidden away, sure, but the FBI usually shuts them down right quick (like in Tx last year). I feel that this movie would have had a better go if they had attacked a religion like Catholicism instead. We KNOW for a fact that there were HUNDREDS of pedophiles in that church (not the same for the LDS, not even close kthx) and after the church found out about it - they didn't have them arrested (unlike EVERY other church), but relocated them to abuse even more people. In the end of the very first inquiry, there were THOUSANDS of victims. Even with the FLDS there are only HUNDREDS. Not to mention that AFTER the first arrests and closure of the Catholic church, yet another few cases have appeared in Ireland. That church is doing nothing but making themselves worse, and trying to hide it.
But, no, let's attack all LDS people. That's more of an incite to a religion war! I am disgusted that this film won ANY awards, let alone had so many ignorant viewers. I'm still standing by attacking Catholicism instead. I'm sure the film director wanted to be novel, but he was going about it the entirely wrong way. He didn't have his facts straight, confused the viewers, and attacked a religion that really is NOT that bad. If he had attacked Catholicism instead, I'm sure there would have been 100% more drama around it (like their church banning the movie, unlike ours that didn't) and they would have a point!!!
What it comes down to is this: LDS/Mormon religion is always misunderstood. Even half of THIS country's newstations can't figure out the difference between FLDS and LDS. We are constantly being attacked, and for what? We NEVER did anything wrong from DAY ONE of our religion. Just because you don't understand or don't believe in the same things as us, doesn't mean that it is a-okay to completely trash us. Remember the Holocaust anyone?
The simple fact that we had to move to our own little terority to live in the 1600s is proof enough that non-believers are complete hypocrites. You all attacked us from the beginning, and haven't stopped since. Get your facts straight and just leave us alone. We NEVER abided by polygamy, even in the 1600s when it was considered the "norm", and we had enough insight to "suggest" (not required) to our member that certain things are harmful. Like omg, smoking is bad! Or drinking will kill a poor child crossing the road!
What EVIL people we are! There are OTHER religions like the Phelps-Roper clan, who DESERVE to be attacked. We are normal people, who work normal jobs, dress normally, and act normally. Unlike the Catholics who hide their pedophiles and dictate the lives of their members, or unlike the Phelps clan who accuse ALL military members (even ones married with kids) of being faggots. I think if anyone should be attacked, it would have to be someone like those two.
I'm still sticking to this director is a complete waste of air and shouldn't be directing shit. If you can't figure out the difference between two easy to reference religions, you shouldn't attempt to make a crappy (storyline was almost nonexistant) documentary about it. It was a BAD movie.
It was also filled with horrifyingly disgusting content. The nudity and perfidy in it was too graphic for me. I watch some raunchy shit sometimes (just got done rewatching the latest Saw movie), but when I saw the attempted rape on the daughter...I was screaming WTF at the computer screen. It seemed like all the director wanted to do was SHOCK the audience so that they could see what was "really" happening in the LDS community or to SHOCK the audience into remembering his piece of shit "art". It was terribly directed, researched, horrible acting, horrible screen play, and honestly there was hardly a storyline.
When almost all the cast was killed, I wasn't even affected by it. I laughed. I wasn't attached them at all. There was no sort of plot line to their development and it was comical, to say the least. At the end of the movie, I was stuck in this land of "this was a waste of my time" and a mix of "wow that was some hateful shit". THIS is religious intolerance. So sad for the ONLY religion who PREACHES tolerance to be the one constantly (!!!) attacked. I think this might be WHY they do attack us. Because, we aren't like the Catholic church who will just tell it's members to stop doing this or that just because they don't agree with a book (I loved that movie!). We take all of it in stride, and I'm finally going to be the one to say - you're a fucking idiot and a bigot!
PS. The Duggar (?) family with 18 kids is really creepy too. I know that most American, regardless of religion, have 6 kids nowadays (seriously, look at the census from this year), but for fuck's sake if my kid is having kids the same time I am - that screams WTF! Too many kids, and they dress themselves like the FLDS. Plus, she home teaches all of them (most biblical lessons), names them all names like Elisiah (but isn't it all J's?), and looks like she BELONGS to the FLDS community. I watched their show a few times and they just screamed pedophiles in grooming to me. Creepy!!!!
No, I will not have 18 kids. I will most likely only have 1 more, and then maybe adopt 1 when we are around 40 yrs old and our kids are self-sufficient.
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